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  1. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    You missed the whole point. Remove swordsmanship from it and add another fighting style & pretty much nothing changes as to how Haki enhances a certain fighting style. That is as far as we know from the prespective of Zoro. We don't know how Rayleigh uses that in his sword & he's pretty much...
  2. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Same goes for CoO, CoA & CoC and in fact pretty much every haki form... does that change the fact that all these hakis are being used to enhance one's swordsmanship? Like, Luffy was a df user/brawler both before & after he learnt Haki; Zoro was a swordsman both before & after he learnt Haki...
  3. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    And why does that come outside of Swordsmanship? Shanks uses his CoC to make sure his opponents, if they can see the future i,e. , don't have an undue advantage against him in duels. And didn't the same Film Red say that Shanks had that ability & was known as Observation Killer back when he was...
  4. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    "Zoro's the combatant, so he's stronger than Luffy" type energy.
  5. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    To me, Mihawk already achieved his (kingly) ambition a long time ago when he grinded and became the WSS. He isn't like all of these pirates who are ambitious & chasing after their dreams and rightfully so because he has already achieved his. And that explains how he does stuff out of the...
  6. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Zoro challenged Mihawk to a duel in Baratie & looks to challenge Mihawk to a duel to take the title, not to a game of cutting contests lmfao. Cope :pepehawk:
  7. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Even if it is true, the difference is Yasopp's a better shot. Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman. Who's a better marksman is determined by who can accurately shoot a farther target. Who's the WSS is decided by who beats tthe current WSS in a duel (how Zoro aims to take the title). In Yasopp's...
  8. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Stephen wasn't the Viz translator at the start of OP and Viz was known for its horrible translations. He was later made the official translator after which Viz had pretty consistent quality. These translations are his from when he was not a viz translator but doing it for the community. I'm...
  9. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Nah I'm done. Enough retardation for the day with "Dai Kengou" and "Greatest" cope.
  10. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Stephen Paul's translation for the sequence in chapter 52 where what Zoro said to Sanji is being brought up. Early Viz Translations were ass cheeks. https://web.archive.org/web/20090423151124/http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v06c052.txt @BleakAsh Who's the dumb, agenda...
  11. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Bruh are you being daft on purpose or what? Zoro here doesn't even USE the word Saikyo. He says "Sekaiichi no Daikengou" here. Meanwhile, Saikyo is used as Strongest in EVERY. TRANSLATION. EVER. including Mihawk's title which is Saikyo no Kenshi. But somehow here it's greatest.....
  12. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Viz has translated Saikyo as Strongest in every single one of the titles given so far but this one is an exception because in some contexts Saikyo is used to refer to the Greatest right? :pepehawk: Viz translates "Sekaiichi no Daikengou" as Greatest Swordmaster in the World. The word Saikyo...
  13. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    It isn't. Worlds Greatest Swordsman comes from Sekaiichi no Daikengo. (literal translation as the #1 Daikengou) Worlds Strongest Swordsman comes from Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi. (Worlds' Strongest Swordsman). Zoro here says Saikyo no Kenshi. WB's & Kaido's titles are Sekai Saikyo no...
  14. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Thanks man, but this thread is pretty much worthless when all that effort to prove that Zoro's dream is different from Mihawk's title is invalidated when Zoro, in his own words, considers them to be synonymous. There's really nothing more to prove atp. The author essentially proved that Shanks...
  15. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    What are you trying to prove? That you making 8-9 idiotic cope threads per day is justified?
  16. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    That bitch abandoned everyone after antagonizing the entire forum against us lmao. He's 100% part of the extreme. I'm talking about the others lol.
  17. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Not a single soul said that fire dragons, meteors, misery and Shock Wille are swordsmanship. Air slashes are swordsmanship. Shock wave attacks are swordsmanship. I've shown you evidence from the manga itself. You are just a illiterate, bad-faith debater who's too agenda fueled to accept your...
  18. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Yep. The only difference being "Air Bar" is now "Gusts CoC".
  19. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    YOUR headcanon. Your definition =/= Manga definition.
  20. ConquistadoR

    Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

    Basically because the OP's favourite Shanks doesn't have a title, he's tryna separate Mihawk's title from Zoro's dream and then claim that all titles are false ones. Not just Mihawk's, Kaido's & Whitebeard's as well. He cannot claim that easily because there's no way that Oda would ever make a...
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