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Oden the swordsman isnt there as well. Now Oden isnt a swordsman?

These fellas just be making up anything to cope... not once was a term like "True Swordsman" been used in this manga to differentiate like the OP is coping about.

Ask Oda where and how he has defined what being a "True Swordsman" is in 1000+ chapters of this Manga and he'll laugh at you

Now do you see how retarded the arguments are? XDD. Haki is just a stat enhancer. Luffy was a brawler/Df user both before and after Haki, Zoro was a Swordsman both before and after Haki, Sanji was a martial artist both before and after haki. Im thankful though... this chapter reduced the...

He thinks he's providing something that Ndule or Albino or 100s of other Luffybros and Shankstards haven't said before.

I'm sorry but I cannot say that someone who simply uses Haki & Swordsmanship to fight is somehow different than Zoro or Mihawk or any of the 100s of Swordsmen in this manga just because it hurts your feelings to do so.

Big Mom the same character who has Powerful Devil fruit, Weather Manipulation & Homies? King the same character who turns into a Pteranodon, uses Spikes, Swordbreakers and also is a Flame Bender? What does Shanks, a simple Swordsman who imbues Haki into his Swordsmanship, have? We're talking...

@Paperchampion23 is long due for a major L when the Marshalls beat his boy :endthis:

No AI can be that hypocritical. Has to be an agenda driven human.

What about Ikoku? The attack that didn't cut Kidd and the attack that was explicitly said to be Giant Swordsmanship? So what now? Shooting Haki is also Swordsmanship lmao?

It's insane ngl. According to them only Mihawk & Zoro are Swordsmen. Maybe some of Zoro's opponents. Rest all Shoot Haki :risitameh:

The same character who summons Tornados, makes Swords bend, summons spirits, and even summons a Demon God with 9 arms & 3 heads... all in the name of swordsmanship. But "ShAnKs iS ShOoTiNg/ThRoWiNg HaKi"

Latest one being he "shoots Haki".

Worlds Strongest Swordsman > Swordsman Shanks. Zoro & Sanji is something separate from this.

I respect that Though even when users disagree about who is (slightly) stronger, at the very least we all can agree that both are extremely relative.

@Pringles When did you change to Camp Mihawk? I remember debating you after the Cross Guild chapter... back when you had an Escanor? avi