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  1. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Dude, you are the one bullshitting since you started to quote me, first you said ''accidently'' wrote that killing thing, then now you are saying this conversation is pointless because I just debunked your arguments. :milaugh: It could be weird for you, it's not weird for me, or perhaps for...
  2. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Because the marines can't decide that, what kind of argument is this, are you serious? :suresure: The marines can't decide on joining forces with a Yonko, that's 1. 2 is, there are other World Government forces who could help him other than marines, and the Gorousei controls that, such as SSG...
  3. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Lol, you are the one claiming that Shanks is doing something worse than what Blackbeard could do by just ''talking'' with Gorousei. That was a baseless accusation, now you are saying I've the all the answers? :milaugh: I am the one asking what's your basis on your accusations, and I didn't see...
  4. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Yup, Shanks is not even serving them. He is there for a talk, it looks like this ''snitch'' thing that Shanks haters talking affected you. Shanks is playing for politics, and Gorousei is controlling the entire World Government, you can even talk with your enemies, that shouldn't be weird for...
  5. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Yes I agree it's silly when you accuse people for doing something they never did. Come back later when they actually show Gorousei tortures slaves like the other Celestial Dragons, we just see there are exceptions amongst the Celestial Dragons (Mjosgard, Doffy's father), and you are still...
  6. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Again, you've no basis that Akainu received direct order to do that. Aokiji didn't even know that and he was surprised, why would Akainu received an order that Aokiji wouldn't know? There is a reason why Aokiji blames Akainu. They specifically said the fire came from Akainu's ship only, not from...
  7. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    What I meant is that they are nothing like the other slaver Celestial Dragons, E.Oda never showed them while torturing the slaves, so it's baseless to say that they are worse than Blackbeard.
  8. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Donquixote Mjosgard (who saved Shirahoshi) and Doffy's father are Celestial Dragons too, it doesn't mean they are all the same. The point is, we never see Gorousei acting like the other Celestial Dragons, and saying that they are all the same is baseless.
  9. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    We never see Akainu received order, that's your baseless accusation. Spandine wasn't after the civilian ship, he was chasing Robin, who also managed to learn to read like other researchers. No where they showed that Spandine wanted to kill the other civilians, or the Gorousei said that. Aokiji...
  10. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    What's the basis of this? First of all you're mistaken it with who committed genocide. Gorousei didn't give the order to kill the civilians at Ohara, that was Akainu. They give order to kill the researchers, because they learned too much. Then Akainu wanted make sure that no researcher escaped...
  11. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Not convinced why he shouldn't be obsessed with Blackbeard after even fighting with Whitebeard for him. Suit yourself. We will learn soon enough why he went to Gorousei. Also I read the first post, which includes Shanks's meeting with Gorousei, which is why I explained why he would go to...
  12. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    This is Luffy's face, and his scar; And this is his flag; There is no scar. You don't put the scar on there, as a main symbol of your flag, but Shanks did because he is obsessed with it.
  13. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh: Yes, you need to realize what you are writing of course, it's not my problem if you write the wrong thing. Also it's not out of context at all, you are trying to prove that Shanks is not obsessed with Blackbeard, and you were acting like (accidently wrote even)...
  14. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    You didn't say what? I am talking about this;
  15. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Shanks also knew he couldn't fight with Blackbeard at marineford, because he was not certain he could win, and he went there to stop the fighting, fighting Blackbeard would make things worse for both sides, and the marines would continue to attack both. So my point is, paperchamp said Shanks...
  16. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    You are saying like Shanks could kill Blackbeard, but he choose not to. That's not true; 1- We don't know if he could, when Sengoku + Garp couldn't. 2- Shanks also knew that, which is why he didn't go after Blackbeard. 3- He couldn't fight him at marineford for the reason I just explained. (it...
  17. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Because he couldn't? Sengoku + Garp couldn't, what makes you think Shanks could? And lets say he could, fighting with Blackbeard at marineford would only make things worse, the fight was going to continue at the both sides if Shanks attacked Blackbeard, then marines would continue to fight with...
  18. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    Sometimes, there can't be narrative misdirections, we all know Luffy is going to survive this arc, and he will become the Pirate King in the end. He can't spin this around. That's no different than Shanks's obsession with Blackbeard, otherwise E.Oda wouldn't go far enough decorate Shanks's...
  19. Erkan12

    Speculations Shanks is not who we think he is.

    I doubt he will even show the rest of conversation, because it's too obvious. You can't be thinking that Shanks is betraying Luffy now for no reason? He could've let Luffy die in several occasions. He also think Luffy is the safest bet to defeat Blackbeard. Every other pirate who is not Yonko...
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