If Oda wishes to portray a compelling parallel with the Roger Pirates CoC users wise numerically speaking then 3 is a good number as Shanks didn't show his CoC until much later.
Yamato for Oden
Luffy for Roger
Zoro for Ray
Well she wields that parallel related to her obsession and her life being shaped by him in a significant way. Of course what matters the most is the numerical difference here assuming Oda will even necessarily care.
Of course Sanji is one of the biggest players of the SHs but numerically speaking 3 CoC users is a sensical intuition even as a parallel with the Roger Pirates.
Luffy / Roger
Zoro / Rayleigh
Yamato / Oden
None / Shanks as he wasn't a developed CoC user
I was addressing the original mistake. You had called me out for me inferring that the power of someone can be established by much more than CoC which is technically true considering CoC is not even necessarily the only prominent feature that determines someone's power level and many other stats...
And I was merely mentioning CoC in general at the beginning? Since you mention ACoC, what's your proof that no top tier lacking CoC haki is stronger than Current Luffy exactly? You realize how insane your argument is, excuse me? Because I did never implicate anything different since CoA is not...
That doesn't mean that Marineford Luffy is as powerful as a top tier who doesn't possess CoC.
It's as simple as it looks hence I'm not wrong at all.
All I asserted is that the power of a user is made up of many many components.
Yeah that's a far fetched argument. CoC is one type of haki. It might be revealed as the most proficient but it's still merely part of a large spectrum which is the power level of a character in all its myriad of components.
The most hilarious notion is that if Sanji doesn't get CoC numerically wise we can still have enough conquerors potentially, to at least stalemate fundamentally.
Where did I state that or even implicate? :whitepress:
Re read my whole convo in here and you might figure the real implications of what I meant to highlight.
He didn't factually give his life for Luffy however, he accepted the risk, but that's something he does daily by sticking with the SHs, although this time the risk was greater, yes. He wasn't walking the plank to be put to death like Roger however, he did well taking the gambit cause he then...
I'm merely referring to giving up his dreams and staying on WCI accepting to marry Pudding, instead of attempting to resist and be patient, trusting in his crewmates and their capabilities.
Zoro didn't sacrifice his dream for Luffy. Actually when he joins him he specifies that this will not implicate that he will have to give up to his dream in order to follow him in his journey to become Pirate King.
I concur that he would probably give up to his dream in order to save Luffy's...
You typed an essay and yet my point still remains. Looks like you are the one who can't read / assess the situation properly after all. :kayneshrug:
It still doesn't excuses Sanji for the weak will he displayed on WCI. Answer to this simple question: would Zoro and Luffy ever think about giving...
For starters because even if we took the parallel with the Roger Pirates into account numerically speaking Sanji's CoC would not be required mandatorily, but also because he didn't demonstrate to possess that much of a powerful imo and/or the characteristics of a supreme king/leader...
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