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and what did I say You aren't paying attention Luffy doesn't have the ambition to be a pirate, but the king of pirates. Zoro's ambition isn't being a swordsman, but the strongest swordsman. Being a fleet admiral sets Sengoku apart. Unless Green Bull, Fuschia Tiger, or yellow monkey show it...

Yes, he was a fleet admiral... this means he is set apart from mere admirals. It doesn't matter that he wasn't there at some point, and isn't there now, what matters is that he got there. So we can understand that there was a greater ambition. That is what is present in CoC users. I set Akainu...

I said that the admirals we have now (Green Bull, Fuschia Tiger, and Yellow Monkey) don't have it. Akainu also doesn't have it. Kuzan is essentially guaranteed not to have it. So saying that they have kingly ambition is not true. If they are revealed then that means that they do, simple as that...

You don't know his history lol. If he has ambition and eventually made it then the implication is that he had strong goals and willpower Luffy was a conqueror when he was getting beaten up by Bluejam, Zoro was a conqueror losing to Kuina daily, Doflamingo was a conqueror getting his ass whooped...

He doesn't count because before he retired, he was not "an admiral," he was fleet admiral in the great age of pirates. The very top of the Marines presiding over admirals.

Yes, someone who is right. Show me he's an admiral with proof instead of riding around on a log of bullshit

He's not an admiral :goyea:

Why do people ask about the kingly ambitions of people who don't have CoC?