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  1. Garp the Fist

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    So, with this in mind, Zoro looking very on-track to at least equal, if not surpass, Oden this arc.
  2. Garp the Fist

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    The five year comment isn’t for Laugh Tale, that was a misinterpretation of what he said. It’s for the entire series. Oda’s said in interview after interview that he wants to finish the series in five years. He won’t manage it because of his nature as a writer and stuff like last years covid...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Can’t really go through all the quotes I have, so I think i can sum it up with this I think there is a very, very good chance that the only remaining, proper fight Zoro has in the series post-Wano is against Shiryu, who will have killed Mihawk. That’s due a number of factors, the two most...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    There’s plenty of room to juggle. Luffy doesn’t become PK level if he’s stronger than say, Aokiji. In the same vein, Zoro doesn’t become WSS level if he’s stronger than Oden. Yeah, what’s the problem with that? Rayleigh wasn’t the WSS either. Mihawk is better than these guys was, and Zoro then...
  5. Garp the Fist

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    No, it doesn’t imply that at all. I’m talking about Zoro’s path forward, not Luffy’s or anyone else’s. Oden, for all his hype, is not stronger than Mihawk (or Shanks, for that matter). Zoro > Oden does not equal Zoro > Mihawk. Zoro’s endgoal is not “i want to be stronger than Rayleigh and...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    For the black blade argument. Yes, i can understand why people think it’s too early for Zoro to do it. Too early, hasn’t yet mastered the sword, all good reasons but No matter when Zoro does it- he’s going to make Oden look bad retrospectively. Whether Zoro turns Enma black in Wano or by EoS...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    It does if you assume there’s at most two real fights left for Zoro in One Piece, which I do. It’s not like post timeskip has been awash with big fighting arcs where the Strawhats are pushed to their utmost. Luffy’s had that, the rest haven’t. Oda does not care about mapping out a progression of...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    All this is answered by what I’ve said- One Piece is ending soon. The only threats Luffy and Zoro need to face after Wano are the greatest threats they will ever see. Shiryu, for example, is Blackbeard’s version of Rayleigh, Oden and Zoro. So the answer to the question of how strong he’ll be is...
  9. Garp the Fist

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    One Piece is ending. Everything Oda has said recently points to post Wano (Elbaf- Laugh Tale - Final War) being a massive, cohesive end storyline. Luffy went into Wano already being heralded as an Emperor, he’s coming out of it with that position cemented. Luffy and Zoro will need to be in the...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    You’re meaning post WCI Luffy, right? Cause it’s in the fight that Luffy and Zoro will push themselves to Shanks and Oden levels. They aren’t there now, the same way Luffy wasn’t as strong as Katakuri until later in the fight. Also it’s not a straight one vs one as BM is involved, and Kaido...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    There’s a very good argument that he will. We went into Wano with Shanks saying he and Luffy will meet soon. Which means that Luffy will be a great pirate at the end of it. That could well mean that post-Wano Luffy is as strong as Shanks. 1610757092 Like I’ve said on other threads, I think...
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    I mean, really all we’re talking about is Zoro doing something that matches this this and this I don’t really think that’s a huge leap of faith? A head on clash with one of the two Yonko, not being one-shot by them and landing a heavy blow on Kaido is all he really needs here.
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    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Sure he will. Why not? Luffy’s gonna be ready to face Shanks, Zoro can be as strong as Oden was. I mean, we saw Oden vs Kaido. It was not a long, protracted fight. I’m very much expecting him to do the same as Oden did- land one hell of a hit on Kaido. When Enma becomes a kokuto, that’s a clear...
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