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Further proving the narrator right when it was stated that Prime Oden was invincible. Even WB was hesitant about fighting someone who could beat Oden ( he didn't know Kaido used a hostage).

Oden is also hyped. That's the point. You can't pick and choose what you want Yet that doesn't mean Oden didn't have COC burst The subconscious - conscious comparison is quite irrelevant. In all those cases COC was coated in the attack. You'd have to prove that consciousness actually creates...

Nothing proves that Rayleigh /Shanks/Mihawk can either apart from hype Besides Asura's statement, we never saw Oden use COC burst either. It is. It would be like MF Whitebeard unlocking a new ability when he was trying to save Ace. He wouldn't be able to because we know he's past his prime...

For me , the whole black lightning arguments do not hold weight. The very fact that black lightning can even occur with COA is enough support for it. With Oden's hype and his own statement, it is unlikely that he couldn't consciously coat his attacks in COC. The very fact that he scarred Kaido...

What I do know is that it doesn't mean mastery. Luffy had the ssme streak yet no mastery

Your point was that having black streak = mastering so Luffy mastered and Oden didn't...which is obviously false. The fact that Luffy had black streak yet didn't master should already show you that black streak is not a prerequisite It's obvious you are wrong. Black streak does not = mastery...

Luffy didn't master anything How would you know whether Oden did it consciously or unconsciously? In fact Oden already mentioned that he was at his limit of strength, so how would he then go on to unconsciously use COC coating..

No wonder Luffy needs the magic fruit. EOS Zoro will be above Roger

You do understand that this is headcanon right? Kaido: only a few among the VERY SYRONGEST can use adcoc

So Kaido is a Haki man....Zoro too

So Roger used a named sword...I was told he only picked a random cutlass and decided to use to fight like a haki man #AiRbAr

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If Sanji's card doesn't mention him defeating Page One.....

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Lol Zowo should get a ban for that

It's incorrect. There's no such distinction there

If that is true, it will prove that partners really are equal or extremely close in terms of combat ability