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  1. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    I believe King being referred to as the top of the All-Stars is the whole King>Queen>Jack theme at work. I mean, King does not have a separate designation as a leader but he outranks Queen, who, in turn, outranks Jack. So King is called the top/the first of the All-Stars because he ranks the...
  2. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    If it isn't too much to ask, Could you translate the part about King being the top of the All-Stars?
  3. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    He was only insulting Jack. Even if you consider it as him berating Jack, then that just means Queen also has authority over Jack, which makes sense given the whole King>Queen>Jack theme. More like Queen got mad at him for failing to kill BM which resulted in her almost murdering Queen. That's...
  4. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    If you work in the same organization and outrank someone who works in the same organization, and if the latter also gets to have your rank after a promotion, then you have authority over them. It doesn't matter if the lower-ranking officer talks back to his higher-ups, he's still outranked in...
  5. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    I agree, but calling someone number-1/top/highest can also mean he outranks the others which is why I am asking if it is made specific that it refers to his standing in power, and not rank or anything else. Even in the links you've posted, they say the term can be used to refer to the head of a...
  6. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    I agree VCs aren't the most reliable material out there, but they're still more authentic than our opinions. There are mistakes in the manga as well, but that doesn't mean we should stop using manga references. If there are any mistakes in VCs, then we'll know what they are right away, and so we...
  7. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Aight! I actually don't disagree with you, and I also don't think your translation is inaccurate. We all see and interpret things differently. I agree top of the All Starts could mean he is the strongest of them, but I am just trying to say it can also have a different meaning. Just so you...
  8. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Well, You can hold more authority even if you don't have a separate designation. King's introduction is literally him scolding Jack, a fellow All-Start, for his failures and instructing him about their new business deals. He also berated Queen, although he didn't seem to care. I don't see why...
  9. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Fair enough. I wanted you to clarify this because we usually use terms like "highest" and "top" to indicate hierarchical order. When you talk about the Marine ranks, for example, the manga refers to the admirals as the highest-ranking officers, after the FA of course, while they outright call...
  10. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Does "Top of the All Starts" specifically refer to strength? Or does it say "Top of the All Stars" in general?
  11. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Even the Sanji fan translation literally says he outranks that other Calamities which clearly means he officially holds highest authority after Kaido. Katakuri merely getting introduced separately means he's special, but King officially having highest rank doesn't mean anything.:milaugh:
  12. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Not really, I acknowledged COC's importance, but I don't use COC to my advantage in arguments. I honestly don't even care if Zoro doesn't have COC. Kaido's panel does imply he has it, but the VC seemingly doesn't mention it despite it covering the chapter in which he's noted to have used it...
  13. Gol D. Roger

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    Shanks followed by Rayleigh and Kuzan.
  14. Gol D. Roger

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    Yeah, Zoro boys suck, and they're annoying. I don't even feel like helping them these days if it were for mad Kuri wank which I can't stand. Zoro doesn't have COC until proven otherwise.:goyea:
  15. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Zoro's VC apparently doesn't mention COC. Incoming shitstorm.:milaugh: Yes, He was the old man who taught Zoro about the term "Sunacchi."
  16. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    They must be blind to think Killer didn't damage Kaido after seeing this image.
  17. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    That's literally Chinjao's strongest attack mate. If you're gonna mock someone, at least try doing it in such a way that it doesn't make you look bad. The point isn't about just cutting a mountain. I know what it means to send Oden flying, but that's beside the point. Unlike Law or Zoro...
  18. Gol D. Roger

    News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

    Oden wasn't a top-tier back then, and Ice berg attack is clearly more powerful.
  19. Gol D. Roger

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    Yeah, I agree with you, but I am more concerned about how Mihawk's casual feat far outclasses Roger's named attack that is COC infused.
  20. Gol D. Roger

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    Still, It's a shame Roger needed COC to produce such a low-tier attack. Meanwhile, Mihawk Accidentally cuts an ice mountain several hundred meters away from him.
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