Hes even stronger
If he felt like it he could erase all existence so all universes.
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Actually we already saw zeno from future trrunks timeline erase all of existence in that timeline and he did it casually.
? He sat and watched a 8 universe battle royal casually erasing 7 of said 8 without breaking a sweat and this was with 4 of the 12 not participating, added to the fact there used to be 18 universes but he destroyed six of the eighteen universes after a bout of anger. So yes he has.
Zeno is beyond universal, he is basically a kid with no fighting prowess that can erase universes in a second casually. This is the definition of a character @Admiral Lee Hung doesnt want to include.
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For perspective this is ssj god goku vs holding back beerus
Casual punches were...
Lol think about what you said jiren did. Then think that goku got a form called ultra instinct that aftet he mastered it beat the shit out of jiren.
And even then the angels are >>>> goku
With whis dad the grand priest being the strongest
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And iirc jiren broke out of a condensed time...
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