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  1. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Its not a step according to Koushiro. Koushiro says "A blade that cuts anything isn't a sword" He doesn't say there's a middle ground. Until Zoro does this, he's not actually using a sword. Let's make it simple. Provide a panel in the manga with which you can argue an alternate take on this...
  2. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Well of course. That's basically what Tenguyama said
  3. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    According to Koushiro. Wado Ichimonji WAS NOT A SWORD at all until Zoro made it cut ONLY WHAT HE WANTED IT TO CUT. Note that there is no closer definition of what mastering a sword is in the whole series. I'm trying my best to use Actual panels than trying to "reason" with head canon. Enma...
  4. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Using a sword is not the same as mastering a sword According to Koushiro Zoro wasn't even using Wado Ichimonji as an actual sword until Alabasta. According to Koushiro Zoro was swinging around a sharp piece of metal and not an actual sword. Zoro was not shown mastering Shusui, Sandai or...
  5. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Tenguyama says Strength is what makes people control Enma
  6. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    No mastering a sword is making it do whatever you want According to Koushiro Wado Ichimonji wasn't even a sword until Alabasta. Anyone can pick up a sword and swing it. Mastering swords is a whole other thing
  7. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    This is weird to me since there's no reason Hiyori would know what Wado Ichimonji even is
  8. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    I don't disagree with the information Tenguyama isn't lying. Let's get the exact wording He's talking about Zoro handling Enma easily because he has experience with a similar sword. As in Zoro has ALREADY GOTTEN THE EXPERIENCE FROM WADO ICHIMONJI. Like the moment Zoro mastered Wado...
  9. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Oh. But Zoro's swords ARE RELATED TO ZORO. Like the primary drive Zoro has had for the last sixty chapters was just his swords. It's not useless info. It's very useful info because it's about things ZORO CARES ABOUT. Unfortunately Zoro doesnt care about family drama so that right there is...
  10. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    I don't think so. He had Wado Ichimonji for 10 yeas and never mastered it. And he didn't master Shusui until some time during the two year time skip. Of course as Zoro gets stronger he master's swords faster such Enma will be mastered before the arc ends but this wasn't always how he was. You...
  11. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    But doesn't "dealing with cursed swords" itself make you strong? Remember Tenguyama literally says this to Zoro "Enma much like a cursed sword cannot used by the weak" So it seems more like When Zoro starts using these swords he's weak and the swords remain too difficult to use. Then Zoro...
  12. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Huh? Are you asking what Wado actually does to help Zoro use Enma? Well it does nothing. Zoro is the one who does it. Zoro is the one who got familiar with a sword that was similar to Enma. So Wado Ichimonji is not DOING anything. It's just a sword that happened to be quite similar to...
  13. ImmaIvanoM

    General & Others Did Zoro have a training wheel for Enma?

    Well that's assuming Kin'emon has much growth potential as Zoro. It's possible kin'emon would require 20 years with Wado Ichimonji to get to where Zoro is
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