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True, I’m just saying that the inclusion or lack thereof is stymied by getting burned (figuratively and literally) so many times in the past, which is why converting is so difficult in the first place.

I’ll point out that the exclusion thing has always been mutual between Jews and…like, most of the world throughout history; a lot of my people are weary of outsiders because they’ve typically sought to eradicate us, and assimilation doesn’t really make things better. That being said, this sounds...

Don’t know why I keep coming back here, I’m seeing a lot of instant experts on what Judaism is like or what goes into the conversion process…and a lot of y’all are nowhere near getting it right :few:

My experience with Reform Jews has been…different…but I could say the same about the Hasidim too. Conservatives are in the sweet spot, mostly because it’s a stronger focus on culture than the former but much less strict than the latter :kata:

I was thinking the same thing…most people here have terrible opinions on religion in general, and the only person qualified to discuss this subject is not interested in taking it seriously :arnoling:

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