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1010 was the chapter where CoC actually came into play a lot like you said, yes. But 1009 had no focus on CoC at all iirc. There is literally no point in the CoC imbued attacks even having the black lightning effect if Oda decided to show such attacks without it. He can easily explain why...

So you're saying that Dorry and Brogy too have to be Adv CoC users just because of the kanji? What if the kanji is just there to represent the attack by 2 of the conquerors of the sea (yonko) and doesn't need to be CoC? I mean, it's even missing the black lightning effect that every other person...

Yeah, I realised later. I thought he was talking about Zoro's attack earlier.

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That's probably because his CoC hasn't bloomed yet. He doesn't even know he has CoC let alone knowing how to intentionally imbue it in his attacks. I mean that's why it's so confusing right now. We might get an explaination later though.

Luffy would've realised it if the earlier attacks were imbued with CoC. The only CoC hit was Ragnorok. Luffy said, 'After taking that hit from your club, I figured it out!' after getting hit from Ragnarok. Let's not use headcanon here.

Eh, now Dorry and Brogy too are CoC users just because of their attacks' name. Sounds about right. :pepeke:

Hakoku translates into country of conquerors too, what's your point?

How? lol. Am I missing something here? There wasn't even any black lightning from their attacks iirc. What's the proof here?