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On an unrelated note, I do actually like this new look of Roger’s lol. And I like the idea of the Pirate King on a suicide mission. That’s a really cool thing to learn about such an important figure in this story

Yeah makes total sense, I always cite other pirate crews to make arguments about specific pirate crews lol. Smoothie > Katakuri because Shiryu > Burgess. Unless you actually think totally separate crews should be judged independently? Nah, let’s not get crazy. Go back to Discord, you...

And then we have people citing a completely different crew to argue about the Whitebeard pirates. :king: This is not an uncommon opinion, many people think Ace > Jozu Lol. Including @Bogard

Of course not. Just that 19 year old Marco > this version of Oden is the only logical conclusion we can draw right now. 1576152865 You don’t even believe this lol. I didn’t realize people idolized oden so much that they’d rather argue that story decisions are made at random rather than...

What do you mean “until then?” I’ve posted it to this thread 3 times now lmfao. Division commanders aren’t ranked based on authority. Meaning the only thing they could’ve been ranked on was strength, as ranking them on experience, leadership, or whatever would disqualify both oden and Marco...

I’m glad it’s not funny considering I’m not trying to be funny lol. There’s no reason Marco would’ve been ranked over Oden in the context other than strength. This is a point nobody has contested, all they’ve done is whine about how they don’t like it lol. Well I’m sorry if you don’t like...

Yeah, that’s not an Admiral lmfao. If it was, we’d see that Roger would’ve been negged. Both Roger and Whitebeard have been running from the marines, they wouldn’t need to do so if Roger was lol diffing Admirals.

Fake translations are fun to cite

Lmfao, alright then, I’ll repeat myself for the 3rd time and maybe this time it’ll get through to you. The only possible explanation for Whitebeard giving Marco the First Division Spot > Oden is if Marco were stronger than Oden. Every other reason is logically void. Let’s go over them...

I feel bad at this point lol. Like I’m kicking a defenseless puppy. I’ll leave you blissful Oden fans to your fantasies.

See this would actually legit disqualify Marco > Oden Lol. For now anyway.

When I asked for a logical explanation, what I had in mind was something that isn’t fanfiction ;)

Is that the best you can do? Citing a panel from literally 20 years later in which two characters of comparable strength discuss how they are both candidates for the Second Commander slot? Are you going to present an actual case for why this scene doesn’t paint Marco as Oden’s clear superior...

Well good, at least you abandoned the other nonsense you posted in favor of hoping desperately that Marco is not the First Division Commander, as this would definitively prove Marco is stronger than Oden when taken to its logical endpoint. Lol 1576128408 Um no, Whitebeard is the one who did...

You gave me a fallacy, which is all you ever post to this forum lol. I’m just going to ignore you now lol.

Well, me and Whitebeard, since there’s no other reason for him to put Marco at the first division > Oden lol. A point that you still haven’t contested btw, you’re still just flailing around desperately to save face when the canon has proven you wrong. Just do like Ndule and try to change the...

Nobody is talking about the Admirals accept for you lol. I've explained to you why Marco being the literal First Division Commander is a logical condemnation of Oden’s strength (at least, Oden at this point in his life) and your only response is Ad Hominem. You should google logical fallacies...

How many times does this bullshit have to be debunked in one thread before speedreaders stop @ing me? Lol Oda said Division Commander spots do not indicate authority. He never said they don’t indicate strength. Lol Then why didn’t whitey bay get YC1? She’s been on the crew longer than both...

Blackbeard’s crew appears to be more structured by a mix of loyalty and seniority rather than strength. Shiryu is far above burgess right now, but burgess gets the loyalty spot. But there is no explanation for Oda giving Marco a spot > Oden other than strength. If this position is based on...

Accept he didn’t though :suresure: Oda said the Division Commanders weren’t ordered by authority lol. @Light D Lamperouge can you post that SBS again? I’m surprised by how many people actually thought Division Commanders weren’t ranked by strength.