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I can't even believe that the hostage narrative existed in the first place lol I was just going from the linguistical standpoint. Efforts are in vain after all loses, but as you said, the state of Sphinx tells us more than Bakin's words

Not discrediting the fact that Ryokugyu smoked Weevil, however... "all our efforts were in vain" would have been said even if Weevil bloodied Aramaki since the outcome of the fight determines whether efforts were in vain or not. If you lose at any difficulty without at least cirppling your...