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Tou beat RBK clean without much difficulties But even except that : Ousen mind > Tou strength. and you put Karin as 2 almost equal to Kanmei Yet when Karin had to face Ousen mind her whole grand scheme was erased. Ousen is just insane. If Ordo was against Tou things wouldnt have been that...

Ordo vs RBK : I bet on Ordo any day Ordo has better portrayal being a great general and being part of the main generals of the coalition (for Yan). Also his tribe army and his mountain game is not to be underestimated. And he was against Ousen during the collation so even if he was clowned he...

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yeah in the mountains I agree but in plains (where most fights happens in the story) I think young GHM would have the advantage. Ordo army is likely quite strong physically due to his mountains tribes but GHM was better at siege with his huge machines, and GHM was quite smarter than him. And I...

Haha do'nt worry I respect the man but to be honest Ordo was below almost all the commanders during Kankoku pass : He was clearly below kanmei, Karin and GHM for me. Only debate is Sei kai vs Ordo. That can be indeed discussed. But i think Seikai had more weight during the fight than Ordo...

At the time of Coalition arc Kanmei was 1st Karin and GHM maybe surpassed him after but not in that arc 1645090250 Putting RinBunKun here is disrespect for the others 1645090315 Kanmei > Karin > GHM / Keisha > Seika > Ordo > RBK