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Y'all are so liberal with "HK tier" - get the fuck outta here. Rin Ko's offense broke through Ou Ki's army and he landed a blow right on him. Kyou En clashed with Ren Pa multiple times, faced 4/6 OG 6GGs and held his own against Ou Sen while leading unfamiliar soldiers. Kai Shi Bou is Ren Pa's...

Characters said it, so it must be true. lol, Ou Hon doesn’t know shit about the mountain clans. The most he saw was a glimpse during the initial stages of WZI.

:kailaugh: Go sleep it off, buddy.

Q3 have fought in just about every major campaign and battle for the past 13 years. They haven't just witnessed the highest level of warfare, they've been a part of major successes at that level along the way. What evidence is there A Kou has more meaningful experience in warfare at the top...

It's just what they do.

Would you bet against Shin beating any of mentioned names in this thread in a battle? 10K vs 10K, 30K vs 30K - whatever. Is anyone in this thread beating Shin commanding the HSU? I say hell no.

Current Shin is the better battlefield general. Kei Sha never demonstrated much of a mind for winning a campaign. Koku You was basically one big battle from the jump.