That's not base Luffy, that's Luffy using a super advanced technique... Like, did you read the manga or not ? He doesn't need to turn into G4 to hurt Kaidou because he trained his ass a whole week. But he can't even leave lasting damages yet !
And no, the Marines as a whole are not top tier...
Kaido was never knocked down by base Luffy. The only time he took damage from Luffy, it was after an intense training, while he had been able to one-shot Luffy before. He's still not down.
Samurai, fodders ? Compared to high tier, yes. But even without any training for twenty years, they are...
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