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It was neither Whitebeards nor Rogers goal to stop these 2 from growing. Whitebeard wanted family and freedom, which he accomplished. He had no interest in conquering the NW like Linlin or Kaido, so the failure is all on them. Roger wanted to sail to Raftel, the man that stood in his way and...

Were the others in their primes? And this was a 2v4 floorwipe, no excuses pls. Shes obviously crazy strong, same tier as these other guys, but you cant just ignore well established facts in the story. Whitebeard was considered the worlds strongest throughout the great pirate era, the era Linlin...

Once Roger and Garp beat the Rocks Pirates, this conversation is over.