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VC says Kaku is second only to Lucci, Doriki says Kaku 2200 and Jabra 2180...... i'm pretty sure 2200 is closer to 4000 than 2180 but based off your previous comments you might even argue with me about that too. Again you are placing more stock into Kakus swords and less into Jabras claws and...

You realize there is no possible way to quantify any of this, the only canon metric that can be referenced and used to scale these characters is doriki. We can sit and talk about how Kakus swords made him 2 times stronger then I say well Jabras claws also made him 2 times stronger then you say...

No of course a farmer in the east blue has no reason to get stronger and fight, but if this farmer wanted to travel all over the world to find lets say a special seed that is said to not exist then he would have to get stronger and fight since along the way he will certainly encounter threats...

This is a hypothetical we are assuming that you wouldn't get arrested. You still need to fight to reach your goal which is the finish line. The baratie was a stationary restaurant in the safest sea yet the chefs aboard knew how to fight because there was always the threat of pirates attacking...

No let me explain this to you one last time. Luffy and Zoro have combat centric dreams so the level of strength they need to reach is higher than that of the rest BUT the other members of the crew have dreams that require travel around the world and opposing the WG which means to achieve them...

No the straw hats cannot accomplish their dreams without getting into fights because they will encounter threats along the way.

In the process of pursuing their dreams they will HAVE to fight meaning they don't need to fight someone specific to achieve their dreams like a Mihawk for example but in the pursuit of their dreams they need to fight. You are not understanding that just because their dreams aren't directly...

You just changed the question from do they need to fight to who do they need to beat.......they don't need to beat anyone specifically but they do need to fight and until you can disprove that without changing the story you will always be wrong.

This is mental gymnastics to the highest level, your literally changing the entire story just to fit your narrative. Sanji needs to sail across the seas to find the all blue so he will run into pirates and marines alike and need to fight, so does Nami since drawing a map of the world requires...

Can Sanji find the All blue without fighting? if so tell me how Can Franky build a ship that will sail through the whole grand line without fighting if so tell me how? Can Robin discover the secrets of the worlds history without reaching the final island...can she do that without fighting? Can...

Let me fix your question for you. "Do the other strawhats need to be as strong as Luffy and Zoro to achieve their dreams?", No. But do they need to fight and be strong to achieve them?, Yes.

That's my exact point....saying that every strawhat not named Luffy and Zoro never fought again would imply they aren't strawhats, since the reality is that they are on the future PK crew and will need to fight strong opponents that will try to kill them which of course would prevent them from...

Ah see the Yonkos will hunt him......and who do you think will aid him in fighting said Yonkos?..................HIS CREW.

If we are going with hypotheticals then what if Luffy just sneaks around everywhere and gathers the poneglyphs then sails to Laughtale finds the one piece and becomes pirate king....is that possible?......why not, he could actually do that and achieve his dream....but the point is he isn't and...

Their dreams necessitate travel on the most dangerous seas.....so yes fighting is integral to their dreams. Could Whitebeard have achieved his dream without being the strongest man in the world?....sure, but that didn't stop him from being Roger's equal who had a more strength centric dream.

Warrior definition: A person who is actively engaged in battle, conflict or warfare; a soldier or combatant. Ussops dream: to be a brave warrior of the sea. Sanji: Want's to protect the crew above all else, puts it above his own dream, is a main fighter.......so he must be a top tier combatant...

"Kaku had longer limbs and legs and thus as a result had more speed and reach" This is headcanon, having longer limbs does not necessitate being faster whatsoever, unless you are going to concede that he also had longer limbs than Rob Lucci which then would mean he was faster which is clearly...

Luffy got 2 chapters named after his power ups, Zoro and Sanji got 1.....literally 388 "Gear second", 421 "Gear third", Zoro 417 "Asura" and Sanji 415 "Heat up"(referring to DJ). All of them got new attacks, Sanji used those kicks he showed against Jabra for the first time against others as...

I was talking about the highlighted power ups....of course they showed new moves but I am referring to the prominent ones which Luffy got 2, Zoro and Sanji only got 1. I don't know how I am biased, you trash Sanji to no end, all I am saying is that Sanji and Zoro are closer than you think...or...

Ok then if we count Gorilla arms then we must also count Cuisseau shoot and Deuxième Hachis since they were first used on Jabra so.....what now?.....and everything else is a boat load of headcanon and bias.