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  1. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    But why didn't you just say so from the start? There is nothing wrong with disliking a character or simply liking others better or wanting to see more of them. I personally don't love some well-written characters, too. I can still acknowledge that their writing has been very good though.
  2. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    Btw ... realized yet what "the hour of the legends" really is after the chapter?
  3. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    A few things wrong with your post imho. First of all: Oda has been perfectly consistent in writing Oden as a character. Literally the only reason to get mad is if you don't like Oden's flaw of believing in Orochi's word. And another thing: What you mean isn't called "respect". It's...
  4. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    You can disagree with Oden's decision and call him naive if you like to. You can also love Orochi as a villain (I do for example). However, "respecting" someone like Orochi (toxic, cruel, arrogant, cowardish, whiny, dishonest) while disrespecting Oden (honorable, caring, good-hearted, brave...
  5. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    What many also don't really understand: One major reason that factored in Oden's decision was Orochi telling him his backstory and how he and his family have been defamed and persecuted for their entire life (only because their granddad commited a sin). Oden also decided to take the deal as a...
  6. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    The notion "nothing changed in Wano" refers to Oden's ongoing dancing and the citizens attitude towards him. We also learned this chapter that Oden himself confirmed the well-being of the citizens every time he danced. The death of those 16 has nothing to do with "not wanting to work". They...
  7. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    People weren't killed on purpose anymore and there were no more kidnappings. Yes, circumstances were less than ideal for quite a lot of them, but in Oden's mind that was ok, since it would be all over in five years (if not, he knew he would have to go to war anyway).
  8. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    I don't think we should approach the situation with our eyes (well, to be honest, 99% of us would've thrown in the towel in front of several mobsters and a world class killer anyway). Oden isn't your ordinary dude. He really has a heart of gold and just can't see people in his country die...
  9. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    As far as I understood it, part of the deal was that nobody was kidnapped or killed anymore. It also says that Oden himself checked on the state of the citizens every single time he danced and that it was fine.
  10. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    He could've won, but with a lot of civil casualties. Oden made a bet: Make a fool of yourself for five years, free the hostages because of it and save the entire country without any civilist dying, if those two idiots honor their vow. If not, he could still go to war after those five years...
  11. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    But that's the brilliant part of it: Oda is totally consistent in writing Oden as a character. People who are currently whining and trying to trash Oden simply don't understand his character. He is a man amongst man, yes, but his downfall has always been that he does everything alone. Heck, he...
  12. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    All those situations are very similar, although Zoro's situation from back then probably really describes it best. Sanji's situation is very similar though, too. Sanji also didn't want to cause any casualities. That was his sole reason to agree to the wedding. He could've just told Capone to...
  13. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    Exactly. Oden's thought process is pretty comprehensible. Fighting against Kaido, the barrier-man, Orochi and the clone-witch would've more than likely resulted in his defeat on the spot. Breaking an oath is totally out of character and even if he did, Oden knew a direct war would've caused...
  14. dirtyLarry

    Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 971: Sentenced to Boil

    When he was in the castle? No. He was alone against Kaido and two other guys with hax DFs. If he doesn't agree to the deal, he will probably lose and gets executed on the spot. Once he agreed to the deal, it was Orochi's and Kaido's victory, since all heroes in this series are honorable guys...
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