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End of the day, that was then. This is now. "I was in the same class as Bill Gates" is basically what they're saying. We still have their current bounties, so we know what all their flailing around accomplished. It doesn't make them stronger than people who have been established for years.

Obvious nonsense. You don't even know if Ulti and PageOne were supernovas as well. Also, being a supernova is impressive. Like passing your GCSEs or SATs. But if that's all you have two years later, then you should hide it out of shame