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  1. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    I meant direct democracy, not representatives. 1653326692 I meant direct democracy, not representatives. I don't want Dr. Oz making decisions for the whole state of Pennsylvania, instead I want the population to be informed themselves thus the population making the decisions for Pennsylvania.
  2. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    By state I meant people like you and I. Citizens is what makes up a state, not dictators. That is the essence of democracy. Also, it has nothing to do with "rich folks giving up their stuff". P.S.: Why don't I get notifications when people automerge their reply to me?
  3. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Ok let us call it state socialism then. There are three different forms capitalism, socialism and state socialism. Is that better? My whole point wasn't to argue over semantics. It is silly that we are arguing this.
  4. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    So tell me what what word defines "State control of production"? What term is that?
  5. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Lol this is exactly why don't play with semantics and technicalities. We aren't historians or experts so that is why we shouldn't be so technical.
  6. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    It is important if they followed through with it or not. That is the whole point. Just saying youre a socialist doesn't make you one which is my whole point about Lenin being a politician and using socialism to exploit the population. North Korea has democracy in it's name, does that mean it is...
  7. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    You defined communism as "workers control of production" and then you named USSR as your example and you can't ee the contradiction in your comments? You and I are in America, so if you want to define communism in the traditional, classical sense which was socialism then go ahead. However, we...
  8. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Like I said, you are playing semantic games. I don't play those games. If you want to be a smart aleck then go ahead.
  9. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    I just googled "if a square is a rectangle" and it is but who cares? You are playing semantic games, "Square is a rectangle therefore communism and socialism are the same thing". You want me to google "is socialism and communism" the same thing? Let me try it. I just googled it and guess what...
  10. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    So a square being a rectangle means that socialism and communism are the same things lol?
  11. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Lol no a square is not a rectangle.
  12. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Communism is not socialism lmfao. They are different! Also, I am not the one that saying "twitter socialist" or "I schooled you" or "I wrote a paper in econ class", lmfao that is you. Not sure why you are getting so emotional over this but I am done with this conversation. If you want to...
  13. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Dude, we are going in circles. Communism and socialism are not the same thing. If you want to believe they are then go ahead. I already explained myself. And there is a historical record of Lenin and I advise you to read it because the historical record clearly shows no "workers control of...
  14. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Lmfao "schooled me" because you had to write "a paper in econ class" lmfao congrats dude on your freshman paper. Like I said, chill out and relax. How immature can someone have to be to say "they schooled someone"? Your whole premise in your argument is about USSR and Lenin and saying "you see...
  15. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Judging by your political views I take it you don't like Joe Biden and you consider him a "leftist", right? From your logic, Joe Biden is a pure capitalist because he says he is. You can believe that Lennin was a socialist, but show me where Lennin shifted the whole system to a worker's...
  16. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Lenin was 100% NOT a socialist. Like I said, stop using politicians to describe what socialism is. There are things called definitions so stop using people to define things.
  17. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Lmfao! So then there is no state control sector in communism? So then like I said, Soviets were NOT socialists because they had a state sector which was totalitarianism. You see now why you need to define words before you use them? You aren't making any sense and you keep grouping and conflating...
  18. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    First of all relax and chill out. Second, this is why I keep asking you to provide the definitions and you keep dodging that and keep saying "Why did the soviet have the name" blah blah blah. Like I said, clearly define what socialism and communism is to you. I already provided you the...
  19. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    Names of parties doesn't define socialism nor communism as I have already said. Why did they choose the name name "United Socialist Soviet Republi" (USSR)? I have no idea but it seems to me they went with that name because socialism was very popular during that era. I am a anarchist-socialist...
  20. lee33

    Capitalism vs Communism

    They weren't communist. The Soviets were Totalitarianism. Politician lie all the time and the Soviets leaders weren't any different. Communism before the soviet era was VERY popular among the Soviet population so politicians used that popularity and exploited it. Just like how capitalism is very...
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