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My point was Zoro training to master it not Zoro training to make his ACoC stronger. 1633888544 A Yonji who is still stronger than 95% of the OP verse. Maybe, do you have any proof that suggest that she got insane buffs from it? Since you probably don't then it's basically settled.

Because of her Oni lineage? Are you sure that she isn't just durable like most of the non fodder characters in OP? Don't act like 100% of Yamato's durability or 100% of Kaido's came from being an Oni. Young's WB physical strength? Man I am yet to see him not being clowned. It doesn't even look...

From what I recall being an Oni and his daughter didn't rlly give her anything special. Her df is well... Her df, her FS is copied from her father and so far her durability comes from her fruit and her ap is so lackluster that it's not even worth mentioning. And you mention Yamato yet you have...

You killed yourself by admiting that Luffy trained for CoC. 1633887160 Oh yes, Sanji, the hardest working Strawhat ever. In every arc we see 20 panels of Sanji training. And there's a big difference between what you said. Being born from a family of strong ppl won't make you strong because yes...

It would take you half a second to see what post I was quoting to realize that I wasn't rlly speaking about you 1633884722 I mean, Zoro didn't have an entire arc made specifically for his character development. And even in the arc where they showed why Sanji "is a better character", Zoro still...

Ofc, you are reading Two Piece if you didn't see Sanji doing what Zoro did 1633884353 And why did Zoro use ACoC against Kaido yet he wasn't able to spam it like Luffy did? 1633884415 I am not twisting anything buddy, every proper CoC clash had either a no touch or sky splitting moment, or even...

So it was indeed a clash like Luffy had with Kaido isn't it? 1633869492 B-because well... both fought Kaido and left a scar on him, both blocked hakai and both are fighting Kaido's strongest commander. That's why.

Give us the panel that makes your statement canon then. 1633869338 CoC slander because the cook doesn't have it. Lol. Quit crying buddy, accept it and you will feel better.

Their clash where we saw a sky splitting panel? Or Luffy hitting Chinjao without touching him?

Being someone's descendant doesn't give you a free CoC pass tho. :akasalt:

Luffy using CoC in his attacks against Chinjao? What in the actual fuck?

So many salty ppl in this thread lol.

I am speaking about mastering it, just like Luffy who mastered CoC till the point where he knows who he wants to knock, it wouldn't surprise me if x character is able to master ACoC too. 1633868745 Train to master it and train to unlock it are 2 different things. 1633868869 Oh yeah he trained...

Ugh... Yes and No. It took him 1 Ragnarok to the face and 1 flashback to start spamming ACoC attacks everywhere. If Zoro was the one doing that after a flashback it would be called an "asspull" 1633851568 Too bad that everyone of those 5 or 6 great swordsman are top tier. Oden, Ryuma, Shanks...

CoC doesn't grant any real advantage on a 1v1 battle, however, ACoC does. The problem is that Zoro will still train to master said CoC to use it properly when it's required. He won't be like Luffy who looks at Kaido's Ragnarok and starts punching everything without touching them. There is alr a...