Current Events 3 v 1: Gunko, Killingham, and Sommers vs Gyaban. Then, Gunko vs Zoro, Luffy vs Killingham, Sanji vs Sommers

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Sommers will regen, but, Gyaban is a problem; the God's Knights didn't know someone like him was on the island. This is why they went after Loki first; like Gyaban, Loki has Adv CoC, and can hurt the God's Knights.

Gunko's Arrows function without her near them, we already know this, and Killingham is doing pretty much nothing.

Once they realize a former Roger Pirate, Roger's Left Hand is here, they'll pull up.

Ronia is going to fall, IMO, but when she does, Sanji will catch her.

Gyaban will get taken down by numbers (keeping him from getting hype-tooled)

Ripley is heading to Colun with Franky, Colun is her child. IMO, Ripley will get hurt grabbing Colun, and this will set off Sanji.

Sanji will let Zoro/Luffy know, and they'll head up to fight.

Zoro vs Gunko: Lost Swordsman with no sense of direction vs Direction Woman.

Luffy vs Killingham: Killingham looks like Momo (instant Luffy jokes here), and Luffy has by far the most interesting imagination out of the Monster Trio + is capable of going Giant in Gear 5 to fight the Giant Moms (Luffy has no problem beating up people's mothers, we learned this in Whole Cake Island)

Sanji vs Sommers for hurting Robin/hurting Ripley

IMO Sommers put his Thorn Curse on Robin: when Nami goes over to check on her (I think Gyaban will cut the ropes that Robin couldn't, it matches Rayleigh breaking the Exploding Collars), Nami will get Thorned.

BAM: Sanji CoC, baby, OH YEAH

 

[MonsterZoro]

sommers wont regen but he will grow a new hand out of thorns

 

[Luffy is the mc]

We just witnessed how weak these HK were. Who would be excited for a 1v1 for the M3 against these bums? Let Gaban solo them.

Bring Shamrock back and a Gorosei with him. Then we can talk.

 

[MonsterZoro]

We just witnessed how weak these HK were. Who would be excited for a 1v1 for the M3 against these bums? Let Gaban solo them.

Bring Shamrock back and a Gorosei with him. Then we can talk.

how are they weak gaban is still a top tier he just has less stamina

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

We just witnessed how weak these HK were. Who would be excited for a 1v1 for the M3 against these bums? Let Gaban solo them.

Bring Shamrock back and a Gorosei with him. Then we can talk.

Do you remember Scratchman Apoo cutting Zoro's chest up in Onigashima?

Do you remember the things Zoro did afterwards?

Power Scaling speed blitzes in One Piece is tricky business.

Is Sommer's weaker than Gyaban? Yeah. Is he that much weaker? Nah. Would Sommers have fought completely differently if he knew Gyaban was here? Yeah.

Base Luffy was fighting Kaido evenly at times, and Gyaban made Base Luffy look like a fucking moron.

I think Gyaban could hold off two God's Knights, but, not three. Also think Gunko's Arrow Fruit will be a problem for him; he has to cut the Arrows to stop them.

Zoro and Sanji are far below Gyaban right now, IMO, and Luffy can only fight him seriously in Gear 5.

How long does Gear 5 last? Enough to order a pizza from Kizaru's?

God's Knights are still threats, this is just the fanbase overreacting to a speed blitz.

Sanji parallel injures a high tier easily: "Ohhhh that character is actually weak." Typical slander.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Do you remember Scratchman Apoo cutting Zoro's chest up in Onigashima?

Do you remember the things Zoro did afterwards?

Power Scaling speed blitzes in One Piece is tricky business.

Is Sommer's weaker than Gyaban? Yeah. Is he that much weaker? Nah. Would Sommers have fought completely differently if he knew Gyaban was here? Yeah.

Base Luffy was fighting Kaido evenly at times, and Gyaban made Base Luffy look like a fucking moron.

I think Gyaban could hold off two God's Knights, but, not three. Also think Gunko's Arrow Fruit will be a problem for him; he has to cut the Arrows to stop them.

Zoro and Sanji are far below Gyaban right now, IMO, and Luffy can only fight him seriously in Gear 5.

How long does Gear 5 last? Enough to order a pizza from Kizaru's?

God's Knights are still threats, this is just the fanbase overreacting to a speed blitz.

Sanji parallel injures a high tier easily: "Ohhhh that character is actually weak." Typical slander.

Regen merchant, Robin would have defeated him too without that hax.

It has nothing to do with Sanji, I was never impressed by them because Oda never showed anything impressive from them.

If I see something impressive from them, I'll say they are strong but it doesn't look good so far. I certainly don't want the M3 to fight these HKs, if not for a one shot.

Shamrock and another Gorosei would be a way better option.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

how are they weak gaban is still a top tier he just has less stamina

Gaban is strong and he's facing regen merchant that can't use their regen hax against him.

If they don't use a hostage, they're getting fodderized.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Don't see Luffy fighting them. Shamrock is luffy's fight imo.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Gaban is strong and he's facing regen merchant that can't use their regen hax against him.

If they don't use a hostage, they're getting fodderized.

any top tier will fodderize a yonko commander

 

[Luffy is the mc]

any top tier will fodderize a yonko commander

Yes so they are indeed too weak to fight the M3 in a 1v1.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Don't see Luffy fighting them. Shamrock is luffy's fight imo.

Yeah, after Luffy beats Killingham, I think Shamrock will one tap him.

Luffy has no idea about Cerberus, and is weak to piercing attacks.

I think Killingham will put up a good fight, though; not sure Luffy will be able to damage the God's Knights, and, between Zoro's CoC status in cards/databooks being completely up in the air, and Zoro not using CoC against Lucci, I have no idea what the hell is going on with Zoro's CoC.

I legitimately think that Sanji will be the first Straw Hat to damage a God's Knight.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

We just witnessed how weak these HK were. Who would be excited for a 1v1 for the M3 against these bums? Let Gaban solo them.

Bring Shamrock back and a Gorosei with him. Then we can talk.

How are they weak for jobbing to a legend like Gaban?

The BBP couldn’t handle Garp 1v1 either.

Doesnt change the fact that the SHs were useless against them, Jinbe included.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

How are they weak for jobbing to a legend like Gaban?

The BBP couldn’t handle Garp 1v1 either.

Doesnt change the fact that the SHs were useless against them, Jinbe included.

People can't deal with them because of the fuckin regen. How many times do I have to say that ?
I'm simply saying that they are not worth a 1v1 vs the M3 once we remove the regen hax. Robin and Usopp can most likely deal with them without it.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Yeah, after Luffy beats Killingham, I think Shamrock will one tap him.

Luffy has no idea about Cerberus, and is weak to piercing attacks.

I think Killingham will put up a good fight, though; not sure Luffy will be able to damage the God's Knights, and, between Zoro's CoC status in cards/databooks being completely up in the air, and Zoro not using CoC against Lucci, I have no idea what the hell is going on with Zoro's CoC.

I legitimately think that Sanji will be the first Straw Hat to damage a God's Knight.

Shamrock will one tap a Yonko? Is he a god tier? I mean sure Luffy is not very impressive as a Yonko but still, being one tapped lol

Or is there a hidden Shanks agenda behind that?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

People can't deal with them because of the fuckin regen. How many times do I have to say that ?
I'm simply saying that they are not worth a 1v1 vs the M3 once we remove the regen hax. Robin and Usopp can most likely deal with them without it.

Are Robin and Usopp haki masters like Gaban?

Because it didn’t look like Gaban did anything special against them, save for using haki.

If damaging them is a haki ability, then obviously only the M3 even stand a chance at getting it.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Are Robin and Usopp haki masters like Gaban?

Because it didn’t look like Gaban did anything special against them, save for using haki.

If damaging them is a haki ability, then obviously only the M3 even stand a chance at getting it.

That's my point. Did the HK showed anything other than their regen?
It's not their own power, it was given to them by Imu. So if Imu decides to give it to Robin, Robin is stronger than them thanks to her hax. Even Nami or Chopper would appear as monsters if they had regen.

Nami could just spam Zeus attack while taking no damage and Chopper could just apeshit with his monster point.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

That's my point. Did the HK showed anything other than their regen?
It's not their own power, it was given to them by Imu. So if Imu decides to give it to Robin, Robin is stronger than them thanks to her hax. Even Nami or Chopper would appear as monsters if they had regen.

Nami could just spam Zeus attack while taking no damage and Chopper could just apeshit with his monster point.

The mid trio and even Jinbe cant even deal with the HKs DF powers, let alone regen.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

The mid trio and even Jinbe cant even deal with the HKs DF powers, let alone regen.

Robin did pretty good against Sommers outside of regen.
Gunko is trickier but the moment you understand her df, it's game over.

I mean what would the mid trio do vs Nami if she had regen and just spam Zeus attacks? Nothing. You can't defeat Zeus with haki.
What would they do against Robin if she had regen? Nothing, she would just go and break their necks, attack relentlessly. She would be as strong as Gunko or Sommers with regen.

It is what it is.
HK aren't impressive without regen so far.

Only Shamrocks might be, not because he is a HK, but because he is Shanks' brother and Garling's son.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Shamrock will one tap a Yonko? Is he a god tier? I mean sure Luffy is not very impressive as a Yonko but still, being one tapped lol

Or is there a hidden Shanks agenda behind that?

I've never really thought Luffy post Wano was that much stronger than Kidd or Law in a long fight. If Luffy can't knock you out with his first Gear 5, he either needs help, or he's getting steamrolled. Man is not built for 1v1s yet.

We can pretend the WG gave them those bounties, but, let's be honest: Oda is the one who put them all at 3 Billion. He told us Luffy/Law/Kidd are on the same tier. Luffy has a high end power, Gear 5, but he's useless after using it for 5 minutes. Name me a technique Law and Kidd have that make them useless for five minutes, I'll wait.

We saw Kidd and Law get manhandled by real Yonkou.

Luffy needed Van Augur/Devon to feed him (it wasn't Kizaru, sick of this stupid take)

Luffy in Gear 5 couldn't beat depressed old man Kizaru. And I'm 100% serious when I say I think Kizaru was Severus Snapeing his way through Egghead, and was "killing" Vegapunk, because he knew Stella wanted to make his global announcement.

Warcurcy fucked Luffy up, and Luffy needed Dorry and Brogy to protect him from Warcury. He needed Bonney, Franky, and Sanji to beat Mars, and he didn't even damage him (Mars was fine afterwards when we see him in the Room of Authority), just knocked him out of the Abyss Circle range.

Who did Luffy actually beat up in Egghead? Saturn? Wowwwwwwwww, the guy Nami was dodging? Okay.

Egghead/Elbaph Luffy is the most overrated character I've seen in the history of One Piece power scaling.

Serious Kizaru mid-diffs him.
Serious Shanks would one tap Luffy.

Hell, Kaido never even used his full power: we never saw Shurron Hakke in Hybrid with Flame Dragon Torch active. Been well established that Kaido's strongest base form is his Hybrid. Shurron Hakke (Sake wheeee) is a stronger form of that, then Flame Dragon Torch was literal magma. Kaido wanted Luffy to be Joy Boy.

The last Top Tier Luffy fought that actually wanted him dead was Linlin, and those were very brief clashes (we'll see more soon).

I have Shanks > Shamrock > Teach, but, I think Shamrock is closer to Shanks than he is Teach.

Luffy has been hiding behind Gear 5 + Luck + Fighting enemies who aren't really about killing him. Kizaru clearly wanted Vegapunk to live. Guess how the arc ended? Kizaru was in on it.

Shamrock? Shamrock hates Luffy. Can you imagine the bullying, growing up as Shanks' twin? Linlin treated Chiffon like shit for years. Am I supposed to believe Shamrock had a happy childhood, when his brother is the son of the most hated Pirate in WG history outside the OG Joy Boy? Your brother abandoned you, and cursed you to a life of mockery, just to raise this laughing brat? Shamrock hates Shanks/Luffy.

Luffy scarred his eye trying to join Shanks' crew. I think Shamrock will take an eye out.

Who are the God's Knights attacking here? Kids. Luffy is Shanks' kid, pretty much. Easiest way for Shamrock to take his anger at his brother out?

Mess Luffy up. Both Law and Kidd got theirs when they fought a top tier Yonkou who was willing to end them.

Luffy's gonna get his soon. Luffy in Gear 5 is stronger than Shamrock, IMO; but, Shamrock is strong all the time. Luffy is strong for 5 minutes. Can Luffy defeat a Shanks' level God Knight in 5 minutes? I highly doubt it.

Shamrock is going to be Luffy's wake-up call to how strong Shanks is compared to him.

Oda won't let Luffy fight Shanks serious, Luffy is Shanks' son. So, Shamrock exists to prove that Luffy has another tier to reach, and to push Shanks' Celestial Dragon plotline.

Kizaru was doing the Nika dance, for fuck's sake. Kaido smiled after Luffy Red Roc'd him. Those guys had reasons to hold back.

Shamrock just hates Luffy's guts and wants to fucking kill him.

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The mid trio and even Jinbe cant even deal with the HKs DF powers, let alone regen.

Yeah, if Gunko doesn't have Regen, she still low diffs everyone on the Svalr. She just stood and took Usopp's attack because she's super chuuni and wanted to look cool/doesn't fear Usopp in the slightest.

"This chick is so strong she didn't bother dodging the guy who couldn't injure Page One"

Acting like this is a negative feat for Gunko is the pinnacle of shitty One Piece powerscaling, holy moley

No, Usopp is fucking weak

Gunko low-diffed a Shichibukai to the point his own crewmate, Nami, started shitting on Jinbei for it.

The 3 current God's Knights are strong, they're just weak compared to Gear 5 Luffy/Gyaban levels of power. And I mean, only the true top tiers are above/near Luffy now, and Gyaban has been fighting Giants for years, Colun told us so.

People just don't want to give Gyaban/God's Knight's credits, because they hate Sanji, and because the God's Knights are a threat to Admiral agendas.

 

[zCoconut]

Robin did pretty good against Sommers outside of regen.
Gunko is trickier but the moment you understand her df, it's game over.

I mean what would the mid trio do vs Nami if she had regen and just spam Zeus attacks? Nothing. You can't defeat Zeus with haki.
What would they do against Robin if she had regen? Nothing, she would just go and break their necks, attack relentlessly. She would be as strong as Gunko or Sommers with regen.

It is what it is.
HK aren't impressive without regen so far.

Only Shamrocks might be, not because he is a HK, but because he is Shanks' brother and Garling's son.

Robin did pretty good against Sommers BECAUSE of his regen.
Gunko annihilated near half of the crew only with her df skills. Yes Usopp would kill her in this situation without regen, but again she wasn't dodging in this situation BECAUSE of her regen. Why you would dodge if you know that no matter what happens SHs can't kill you?