Powers & Abilities AdvCoA lost its impact after introducing AdvCoC.

Did AdvCoA lose its impact?


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#41
???? Kid needs AcoC in order to fight a yonko. Did you misread
I wasn’t talking about that lol. All good tho.
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Oden almost did Kaido in without it.
CoC coating is a plot device to protect Luffy from attacks that he would otherwise be defenseless against.
for example, characters like Zoro can block magma attacks with their weapon. what does Luffy have? nothing. he would get burned any time he tried to defend himself.
Oda introduced this concept so Luffy even stands a chance vs some characters.
Hardening haki exist and its advanced types. CoC coating wasn’t needed.
 
#42
True, but the point of this thread comes down to how advCoA is overshadowed by advCoC. It’s no longer a focus and display of advCoA after the other PU was introduced. It had its two minutes of fame at the beginning of the rooftop then it’s never was noted and focused on.
yeah, that's because the POV of onigashima only focused on luffy and his progression to rival the yonko. and because luffy specializes in CoC so it makes sense to display his CoC advancement in a better light compared to the other haki types, just look how future sight barely holds a significance any more.
also CoC is completely determined by the overall strength of it's wielder, it can't be trained willingly and it can't be strengthened individually. it only gets stronger in parallel to it's wielder. and i think that when people fight using ACoC then it means they're going all out. so you can see why luffy can't afford to use inferior techniques this late in the battle.
in the end it all comes to the overall strength of the fighters, kaido can still defeat/match luffy even without ACoC because his overall strength is far higher.
 
#43
Adv CoA was good for freeing Yamato, who is a great benefit.

Adv CoC is going to stop Kaido from popping his ass on each hit.

Offensively, both of them are good but Kaido has a ridiculous health bar.
 
#45
I feel so too also because they should share a similar attacking pattern fundamentally. Both probably based off penetration.

ACoC was displayed as robustly more proficient on the other flip of the metal though it seems it arguably costs a lot haki wise.
 
#46
It’s clear from the title. Oda made it seem like advCoA was the key to bypass Kaido’s hard scale which to be fair it could. However, it lost its importance when it was said it has shallow impact despite Luffy training a week or two(forgot how long exactly) just to deal with Kaido. How is Oda gonna resolve this issue? And what’s your thoughts on this topic guys!
It is what happened when you give a power up, then give another power up in the same fight. The first power up lose his impact.

The only way Oda could resolve this issue, imo, is by :

1/Throughouly explain the difference between the two haki and how they work together.

2/ Make Adv CoA the key component of G5
 
#47
People are thinking Luffy is using both ACoA and ACoC when in the reality he is only using ACoC.

Images says more than words. Luffy says ACoA was shallow but Red Roc made greater damage on Kaido than ACoC bullshit attacks.
 

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#53
AdCOA and AdCOC in the same arc was totally lame.

It was done so poorly we didn't even really feel the AdCOA during the rooftop fight.

It seems at one point that both are doing the same thing.

Those concepts are not fleshed enough.

Introducing a PU that totally ridicule the first one just after its introduction is really a bad idea. Now AdCOC takes all the light while nobody cares about the AdCOA. Just look at the AdCOO/FS and its focus.
 
#54
Adv.COC doesn't make FS useless,but Adv.COA seems to be inferior!
I think they use different haki pools,if that is the case,adv.coc will only be used to fight Top Tiers!
 
#56
AdCoC allows for the attacks to penetrate deeper in to the body.

AdCoA causes internal "explosions" inside the users body.

If you can do one, but not the other, they are still viable and powerful attacks. But if you can do both, it makes it much, much more deadly.

When Luffy was using AdCoA against Kaido, his attacks were effective, but they weren't deep enough to cause any critical damage.

If he were to use just AdCoC, the attacks would penetrate deeper into Kaido's body, but lack the same destructive power as AdCoA.

Combining the two together, you get attacks that cause internal destruction, deeper inside the opponents body.

Having one opposed to the other is 100% effective against any other opponent except Kaido because of the nature of his durability. But in order to achieve 100 percent damage effectiveness against Kaido, you need both.
 
#57
People are thinking Luffy is using both ACoA and ACoC when in the reality he is only using ACoC.

Images says more than words. Luffy says ACoA was shallow but Red Roc made greater damage on Kaido than ACoC bullshit attacks.
He is using both advanced Coa and advanced CoC.

This is proven in chapter 1010.

He blocks kaido's club with his leg with only advanced CoC, shown by him not having a hardened leg.

Then he adds Advanced Armament Haki to his advanced CoC attacks, shown by the giant black lighting streaks,, and hardened limb, then he attackskaido.
 
#58
He is using both advanced Coa and advanced CoC.

This is proven in chapter 1010.

He blocks kaido's club with his leg with only advanced CoC, shown by him not having a hardened leg.

Then he adds Advanced Armament Haki to his advanced CoC attacks, shown by the giant black lighting streaks,, and hardened limb, then he attackskaido.
Dude, hak is invisible. Sometimes Oda forgets to draw it black. He is using CoC only.
 
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