Armwrestling enjoyers assemble!!!

[Hiragaro]

When one says forearm length it means from elbow to fingertip, and yes 51cm is pretty damn long man.

I mean unless you do hooking, or a low hand top roll or you flop press then in those cases you don’t need to fight for a high grip and in a flop press you really want as low of a grip as possible

But for you with a 51cm forearm bro … then you should always fight for a high grip! Get the most out of your natural advantage, you have long levers so you should go high so you can leverage more torque. If you go lower you will be at a disadvantage to your shorter levered opponent because then he will have a more compact tight structure than you so you will have much less stability, and a weaker posture and structure.

So if you want to advance in armwrestling you should train rising and aim for as high a grip as possible bro

Appreciate it man, is noted!

I couldn’t say, I think maybe you’re forced to
actually press Todd and does Vitaly have that ability? Or does that shit when Todd is clearly under the damn table work if Vitaly can pull him a bit off center with back pressure, then maybe Todd won’t have the leverage to go Kings move.

I don’t know much about either fighter tbh but these are just my questions.

Vitali doesn't really have a press, i think the first time i saw him do a press was on the left arm against Artem Morozov for the Number 1 Title in Georgia (last EvW) - he said he usualy doesn't do it, because it's not really comfortable for him (he has the longest leverage in AW as far as i remember), but he was forced to use it in the match.
But i did see a recent video of him training his triceps, but i doubt his press is gonna be close to Ermes or Genadi's in such a short time.
Other than that, he has tons of side pressure, speed and the longest leverage, aswell as the strongest grip in the world. If the match stops it's gonna be very difficult for him to finish MMT. Out of strap he might be able to flash pin MMT, but ain't gonna be easy.

Vitali was actualy supposed to pull Levan in May i believe, because Ermes had to pull Levan, but he wanted more time (end of the year) so Vitaly got put in front for Levan, but then they changed it - now Ermes is gonna pull Levan in summer and Vitali is gonna pull MMT. After that he is gonna pull Devon and if he wins those 2 matches, he is gonna face Levan or Ermes, depends who wins in Summer, at the end of the year.

 

[Zoororo]

Appreciate it man, is noted!


Vitali doesn't really have a press, i think the first time i saw him do a press was on the left arm against Artem Morozov for the Number 1 Title in Georgia (last EvW) - he said he usualy doesn't do it, because it's not really comfortable for him (he has the longest leverage in AW as far as i remember), but he was forced to use it in the match.
But i did see a recent video of him training his triceps, but i doubt his press is gonna be close to Ermes or Genadi's in such a short time.
Other than that, he has tons of side pressure, speed and the longest leverage, aswell as the strongest grip in the world. If the match stops it's gonna be very difficult for him to finish MMT. Out of strap he might be able to flash pin MMT, but ain't gonna be easy.

Vitali was actualy supposed to pull Levan in May i believe, because Ermes had to pull Levan, but he wanted more time (end of the year) so Vitaly got put in front for Levan, but then they changed it - now Ermes is gonna pull Levan in summer and Vitali is gonna pull MMT. After that he is gonna pull Devon and if he wins those 2 matches, he is gonna face Levan or Ermes, depends who wins in Summer, at the end of the year.

I don’t know too much of the nuances between the two but the way MMT goes under the table is absolutely cheating (probably low-key against the rules also) because he is relying on bone lock, where he is hyperextending his arm (but not fully straightening it) and makes it so that the skeletal structure rather than muscles and tendons bear the load.

Michael Todd and Laratt can do kings move because they can fully straighten their arms. In Michael Todd’s case due to injury, ie a bicep tear or something in his past, and in Laratt’s case because of excessive armwrestling training, so thickening of joint structures around the elbow and shortening of elbow flexor muscles,

Kings move is not a skill move or a strength move, because it is essentially an anatomical defect that works in the context of armwrestling because of offloading pressure onto your skeletal structure - not on muscle or tendon strength.

That is why I’m pretty uninterested in Michael Todd tbh, as Kings Move is not armwrestling, it’s just cheating. I hope laletin finds a way to outsmart it @SakazOuki

 

[Hiragaro]

but the way MMT goes under the table is absolutely cheating (probably low-key against the rules also) because he is relying on bone lock

Yeah i hate his style of aw, it’s - Ready, Go! And he is under the table lmao
I honestly don’t even know why it’s called the Kings Move, Desperation Move would be more accurate.
You lost the center and now try to prevent being pinned with a Bone lock or short elbow flexor muscles. Nothing Kingly about it.
I personally think it should be banned, but you can’t really make clear rules for it to be banned, because of anatomical differences alot of aw have.
Right now all we have is, shoulder must be above the Elbow Pad, which doesn’t really bother MMT, because his arm doesn’t open enough for his shoulder to go below the pad.

I am a fan of Vitali so i am gonna root for him anyways, but i also don’t wanna see MMT win with his stupid style. Lmao

 

[SakazOuki]

@Zoororo man I’ve been doing finger pushups and pike push ups for a week, after each set it feels like my fingers are turning into claws lol
I’ve done a decent amount of finger gripping but this felt like a new realm of strength
No idea what a normal progression would look like, but in a month I’m aiming to do full sets with the index middle and thumb

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I beat all my frens at arm wrestling

 

[Zoororo]

@Zoororo man I’ve been doing finger pushups and pike push ups for a week, after each set it feels like my fingers are turning into claws lol
I’ve done a decent amount of finger gripping but this felt like a new realm of strength
No idea what a normal progression would look like, but in a month I’m aiming to do full sets with the index middle and thumb

Nice man! Keep the grind up! I'm not sure or remember what the progression curve looks like exactly, but do callousing work for the finger tips for faster results, for example hitting the wall with the finger tips (perfecting the shigan technique :)), done lightly at first, bending against the wall and supporting yourself with the finger tips, incrementing the difficulty over time making them more calloused. The soft tissue of the finger tips is a huge limiting factor. In the beginning you will do push ups with the finger tips buckled, but once you can do finger push ups on the upper part of the finger tips and not buckling you will be able to handle greater load reps and tougher movements. It has to do with joint structure and physics, ie joint is more stable with the fingers fully extended, so you can actually utilise more muscles and transfer more force from your muscles to the ground, as opposed to joint and ligament taking on more strain. Buckled fingers means that the finger joints is overextended and not in optimal alignment, so you have to create more force or torque to overcome the joint instability. Believe me I’m struggling to do push ups on the upper part of the finger tips, but once you can do that you will see leaps in improvement! Not that actual pushing strength and tendon stability isn’t as important but the actual callousing matters greatly!

 

[SakazOuki]

Nice man! Keep the grind up! I'm not sure or remember what the progression curve looks like exactly, but do callousing work for the finger tips for faster results, for example hitting the wall with the finger tips (perfecting the shigan technique :)), done lightly at first, bending against the wall and supporting yourself with the finger tips, incrementing the difficulty over time making them more calloused. The soft tissue of the finger tips is a huge limiting factor. In the beginning you will do push ups with the finger tips buckled, but once you can do finger push ups on the upper part of the finger tips and not buckling you will be able to handle greater load reps and tougher movements. It has to do with joint structure and physics, ie joint is more stable with the fingers fully extended, so you can actually utilise more muscles and transfer more force from your muscles to the ground, as opposed to joint and ligament taking on more strain. Buckled fingers means that the finger joints is overextended and not in optimal alignment, so you have to create more force or torque to overcome the joint instability. Believe me I’m struggling to do push ups on the upper part of the finger tips, but once you can do that you will see leaps in improvement! Not that actual pushing strength and tendon stability isn’t as important but the actual callousing matters greatly!

As it turns out my middle and index fingers are already seriously calloused due to secret fingering techniques

 

[Zoororo]

As it turns out my middle and index fingers are already seriously calloused due to secret fingering techniques

captains of crush?

 

[SakazOuki]

captains of crush?

A finger in the bum

 

[Zoororo]

A finger in the bum

Ah then you’re not a Zoro fan I take it