Armwrestling enjoyers assemble!!!

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Covid was the first time I learned about the sport, pretty dope. Did some arm training during covid but havent done so in a while besides some grip training

Looking sharp now though, bring me Levan
Looking strong :kata:

I got into it like 2 or maybe 3 years ago - i knew it existed, but never really watched it or anything. Then i believe i saw a video of Denis Cyplenkov (maybe a documentary about him type video or something, don't remember) and since then i started watching it and i love it!
I would like to do Armwrestling myself, but i got nobody to wrestle with and everybody i know is just too weak lol
 
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Looking strong :kata:

I got into it like 2 or maybe 3 years ago - i knew it existed, but never really watched it or anything. Then i believe i saw a video of Denis Cyplenkov (maybe a documentary about him type video or something, don't remember) and since then i started watching it and i love it!
I would like to do Armwrestling myself, but i got nobody to wrestle with and everybody i know is just too weak lol
Gyms in your area would be a good start, it's a growing sport there has to be someone
Ensure proper technique and injury prevention, my friend got his arm Vergo'd a while back, terrible setback
 
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Gyms in your area would be a good start, it's a growing sport there has to be someone
Ensure proper technique and injury prevention, my friend got his arm Vergo'd a while back, terrible setback
The thing is i do calisthenics and weighted calisthenics and i train very hard. So the days in between are needed rest days, i just can't have armwrestling training/sparrings in between really. Calisthenics already helps alot with armwrestling, it gives a very good base for it - many armwrestler do and recomment different versions of pull ups aswell. That's also the reason i beat everyone i know pretty easy and alot of them also do calisthenics and gym etc.
I also try to implement some AW oriented exercises into my calisthenics training aswell.
I don't wanna sound like i am a pro armwrestler or anything - i am clearly not, far from it - which makes it even more interesting to armwrestle someone who does it on a good/high level.
I don't have any gyms that do armwrestling anywhere near, which really sucks, would have loved to do some sparring with people.

Man that sucks...feel bad for your friend and wish him a quick recovery.
 
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The thing is i do calisthenics and weighted calisthenics and i train very hard. So the days in between are needed rest days, i just can't have armwrestling training/sparrings in between really. Calisthenics already helps alot with armwrestling, it gives a very good base for it - many armwrestler do and recomment different versions of pull ups aswell. That's also the reason i beat everyone i know pretty easy and alot of them also do calisthenics and gym etc.
I also try to implement some AW oriented exercises into my calisthenics training aswell.
I don't wanna sound like i am a pro armwrestler or anything - i am clearly not, far from it - which makes it even more interesting to armwrestle someone who does it on a good/high level.
I don't have any gyms that do armwrestling anywhere near, which really sucks, would have loved to do some sparring with people.

Man that sucks...feel bad for your friend and wish him a quick recovery.
Yeah lat and rear delt strength are important, in general overall size and strength would do for untrained people
You can still do specified wrist and forearm work, I did try doing it while lifting daily and it doesn't really take a toll on your body, your forearm muscles get used to it quickly anyway
I think Devon made a video about the most important lifts, wrist curls pronation and rising. If you wanna do any of those progress slowly, tendonitis goes hand in hand with those exercises lol
 
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Yeah lat and rear delt strength are important, in general overall size and strength would do for untrained people
You can still do specified wrist and forearm work, I did try doing it while lifting daily and it doesn't really take a toll on your body, your forearm muscles get used to it quickly anyway
I think Devon made a video about the most important lifts, wrist curls pronation and rising. If you wanna do any of those progress slowly, tendonitis goes hand in hand with those exercises lol
Beside the standard Calisthenics exercises, i do pull ups on my wrists, i have spinning grip handles which i use for wrist curls using my body weight, aswell as rising and pronation lifts with a towel using my body weight aswell.
There isn't really much more i can do, i train for around 3 hours or so after work - then need to make some food and other stuff and then i go to sleep lol

I sometimes also do those movements with a resistance band with high reps when i got free time while watching something for example.
 
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You guys gonna watch EvW 17? Personally the previous 2 events were much more interesting for me. Here there are alot of athletes i don’t really know and are only known in the US basically.
But i am looking forward to Dave vs Georgy, John vs Kanai and Mask vs Ongarbaev.
The other matches aren’t really ‘‘hype“ for me, but can be really good.

Dave vs Georgy can go either way and it’s probably gonna come down to endurance, here i see Dave having more gas in the tank.
But if Dave wins he is gonna be back in the Top 10, very exciting.

John vs Kanai gonna be very hard for John i think, i don’t know if he can press through Kanai‘s KM/open arm Top roll. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he figures something out.

Mask vs Ongarbaev is hard to predict, because Ongarbaev had a surgery and it’s always hard to say how good they recovered etc.
 
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This is what I train for finger containment, no one ever can pry open my hand, but I fear your side pressure
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Kanai is a beast. His match against Hutchins was one of the most epic battles to my memory

Kanai was a whisker away from beating Hutchins, he will definitely take this one.
Damn, this is very impressive. How do you condition your fingers for such lift
Never gave finger strength much thought but I do fuck around with 2 finger pull ups (on each hand) from time to time
 
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I think like in bouldering/rock climbing for finger push ups tendons in the fingers is the most important, it’s not a dynamic lift as much as it is static isometric finger strength

So I’d say for tendon development slow eccentrics and static finger holds of weights in addition to training actual finger push ups will gradually build up the strength to do so.

But it’s also wrist stability, in typical armwrestling training you typically don’t train for wrist stability, ie you train for your wrist to be strong concentrically in order to have pronation, cupping and rising strength over your opponent in a winning position, but wrist stability is the ability to keep your wrist stable under load , ie gripping something and holding it isometrically as opposed to cupping, pronating or rising it in typical armwrestling fashion.

So its different training than typical armwrestling imo

Pull ups is great for armwrestling, and armwrestler will typically do partial range of motion on pull ups in order to get the joint specific strength for armwrestling, as opposed to full ROM where you get stronger in the full range of motion, armwrestlers typically just half rep everything from bicep curls to pull ups to wrist curls and whatnot
This guy in particular is nuts, weighs around 95kg and does this
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bxqekALkcFk

Him and Levan did a video with Larry Wheels and Levan was literally struggling to keep up with him on the preacher
Easily strongest p4p biceps

Those preacher partials look gold for girth
 
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Kanai is a beast. His match against Hutchins was one of the most epic battles to my memory

Kanai was a whisker away from beating Hutchins, he will definitely take this one.
Yeah i was also very surprised about that match - to be fair i didn't really know Kanai, i only knew he used to AW back in the days and was really strong, but damn the first round when he stopped Todd and started shouting was epic! He could have won the match if he didn't rush it.
Yeah i think most people have him as the favorite against John.
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This is what I train for finger containment, no one ever can pry open my hand, but I fear your side pressure
That's really strong, what height and weight are you?
 
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We don’t talk about arm lengths in armwrestling to any specific centimetre, but If you’re taking about a 51c forearm forearm then that would hella long for a 180cm build I would think. Otherwise 51cn sounds unusually short for a full arm length lol but a 51cm forearm length yeah that would give you hella lot of leverage.

Look at vitally Laletin or Matt Mask, they’ve got some long ass forearms, especially laletin, if you got them long forearms you can try to implement their type of outside game effectively :kata:
I mean from elbow to the finger tips, not just the forearm - just the forearm would be ridiculous leverage haha
But i do like gripping low, i take the grip that is comfortable and that’s it. I don’t really fight or try to get a high grip.
In a serious match i probably wouldn’t do it though, i would give away too much.

Btw. what is your guys thought on Vitali vs MMT?
 
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When one says forearm length it means from elbow to fingertip, and yes 51cm is pretty damn long man.

I mean unless you do hooking, or a low hand top roll or you flop press then in those cases you don’t need to fight for a high grip and in a flop press you really want as low of a grip as possible

But for you with a 51cm forearm bro … then you should always fight for a high grip! Get the most out of your natural advantage, you have long levers so you should go high so you can leverage more torque. If you go lower you will be at a disadvantage to your shorter levered opponent because then he will have a more compact tight structure than you so you will have much less stability, and a weaker posture and structure.

So if you want to advance in armwrestling you should train rising and aim for as high a grip as possible bro
Appreciate it man, is noted!

I couldn’t say, I think maybe you’re forced to
actually press Todd and does Vitaly have that ability? Or does that shit when Todd is clearly under the damn table work if Vitaly can pull him a bit off center with back pressure, then maybe Todd won’t have the leverage to go Kings move.

I don’t know much about either fighter tbh but these are just my questions.
Vitali doesn't really have a press, i think the first time i saw him do a press was on the left arm against Artem Morozov for the Number 1 Title in Georgia (last EvW) - he said he usualy doesn't do it, because it's not really comfortable for him (he has the longest leverage in AW as far as i remember), but he was forced to use it in the match.
But i did see a recent video of him training his triceps, but i doubt his press is gonna be close to Ermes or Genadi's in such a short time.
Other than that, he has tons of side pressure, speed and the longest leverage, aswell as the strongest grip in the world. If the match stops it's gonna be very difficult for him to finish MMT. Out of strap he might be able to flash pin MMT, but ain't gonna be easy.

Vitali was actualy supposed to pull Levan in May i believe, because Ermes had to pull Levan, but he wanted more time (end of the year) so Vitaly got put in front for Levan, but then they changed it - now Ermes is gonna pull Levan in summer and Vitali is gonna pull MMT. After that he is gonna pull Devon and if he wins those 2 matches, he is gonna face Levan or Ermes, depends who wins in Summer, at the end of the year.
 
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but the way MMT goes under the table is absolutely cheating (probably low-key against the rules also) because he is relying on bone lock
Yeah i hate his style of aw, it’s - Ready, Go! And he is under the table lmao
I honestly don’t even know why it’s called the Kings Move, Desperation Move would be more accurate.
You lost the center and now try to prevent being pinned with a Bone lock or short elbow flexor muscles. Nothing Kingly about it.
I personally think it should be banned, but you can’t really make clear rules for it to be banned, because of anatomical differences alot of aw have.
Right now all we have is, shoulder must be above the Elbow Pad, which doesn’t really bother MMT, because his arm doesn’t open enough for his shoulder to go below the pad.

I am a fan of Vitali so i am gonna root for him anyways, but i also don’t wanna see MMT win with his stupid style. Lmao
 
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@Zoororo man I’ve been doing finger pushups and pike push ups for a week, after each set it feels like my fingers are turning into claws lol
I’ve done a decent amount of finger gripping but this felt like a new realm of strength
No idea what a normal progression would look like, but in a month I’m aiming to do full sets with the index middle and thumb
 
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Nice man! Keep the grind up! I'm not sure or remember what the progression curve looks like exactly, but do callousing work for the finger tips for faster results, for example hitting the wall with the finger tips (perfecting the shigan technique :)), done lightly at first, bending against the wall and supporting yourself with the finger tips, incrementing the difficulty over time making them more calloused. The soft tissue of the finger tips is a huge limiting factor. In the beginning you will do push ups with the finger tips buckled, but once you can do finger push ups on the upper part of the finger tips and not buckling you will be able to handle greater load reps and tougher movements. It has to do with joint structure and physics, ie joint is more stable with the fingers fully extended, so you can actually utilise more muscles and transfer more force from your muscles to the ground, as opposed to joint and ligament taking on more strain. Buckled fingers means that the finger joints is overextended and not in optimal alignment, so you have to create more force or torque to overcome the joint instability. Believe me I’m struggling to do push ups on the upper part of the finger tips, but once you can do that you will see leaps in improvement! Not that actual pushing strength and tendon stability isn’t as important but the actual callousing matters greatly!
As it turns out my middle and index fingers are already seriously calloused due to secret fingering techniques
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