Best Villain Tournament Round 2 Bracket 2

WHO WINS EACH FIGHT?


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Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
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IMPORTANT: I WILL NOT COUNT VOTES FROM THOSE WHO DO NOT VOTE FOR EACH FIGHT. ALSO IF I SEE OR NOTICE SOME SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY THAT ENTRY WILL BE DISQUALIFIED.

In this round in this thread we will have 6 villains, which means 3 fights.

Vote in the poll, share your thoughts and state who you voted for.

YOU MAY VOTE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU ARE IN THIS ROUND.
Vote for each round, the winners of each fight will advance.


FIRST FIGHT

Joker from Dark Knight
Shhh, take a moment, relax, close your eyes, and imagine the Joker's portrayal you've seen in ANY and EVERY form of Batman (or Batman-related) media. Now I want you to focus specifically on the DC movie verse and name the first Joker and actor that comes to mind. You have Jack Nicholson (foh old man), Jared Leto (sure, if you want a dollar store version of the clown prince of crime), Joaquin Phoenix (yup, he delivered an award-winning performance that showcased Joker's humanity), or Heath Ledger (arguably the greatest Joker and the portrayal of one of the greatest villains of all time). The Joker is the perfect juxtaposition of Batman and, in essence, two sides of the same fucked up coin. Tragic backstory ✅, questionable sense of justice ✅, driven to insanity (albeit two different variations) ✅. Oh, what's so good about the Joker is he doesn't give a single shit about getting himself hurt or killed, and if Batman kills the Joker, guess who wins? The Joker, especially Ledger's, shows that inside, everyone is a bit of a monster, but hey, at the end of the day...why so serious?

VS

Blackbeard OP

Wealth, Fame, Power. There’s a handful of people throughout the story of One Piece that were able to achieve all three while reaching the pinnacle of Piracy. Marshall D. Teech, otherwise known as Blackbeard is the man who achieved the most in an era of accelerated and turbulent change. This villain is an Enigma, we know nothing of him except for his successes. He was Whitebeard’s shadow that lingered for 20 years, amassing strength and attacking in Whitebeard’s blind spot. Throughout this exchange he inadvertently orchestrated the Paramount War by handing the infamous Gol D. Rogers son; Portgaz D. Ace (Bounty:
550M) after defeating him to the WG. The rewards he reaped on his stay with the Whitebeard Pirates included acquiring the Yami Yami no Mi, the most dangerous Logia Fruit, and the position of Warlord of the Seas. He then uses his position to infiltrate Impel Down and acquire histories Worst Criminals under his banner, people each worth over 100M in bounty, as well as Shiryu of the Rain, a dangerous and bloodthirsty Warden. And immediately after so, not only does he kill Whitebeard, the unrivaled King of the Seas, former Yonko, and World’s Strongest Man; he also steals his Devil Fruit, thus being the first man in history to claim 2 Devil Fruit powers, the strongest Logia and strongest Paramecia. As we progress to the New World after the Time Skip, we hear that he has rapidly usurped the Position of Yonko by taking over Whitebeard’s territory and eviscerating the Former Whitebeard Pirate’s and in the process earning a bounty of
2,247,600,000; the largest bounty increase known to One Piece. And after achieving such a title, only rivaling three other Emperors and the Admirals, Teech proceeds to hunt after Devil Fruit users to form a real Devil Fruit Militia. The greatest trait about Teech is his ability to leave everything in the hands of fate, whether he achieves or not and his unique connection to embers of history that have been extinguished by force. His ties to Rocks D. Xebec, his cataclysmic moves that shake the world physically and metaphorically, and his direct parallels to the main character Monkey D. Luffy are world-shaking. When this man makes a move, he Succeeds. Everything Teech stands for, Luffy seems to oppose, yet they embody the same free-spirited, freedom loving attitudes. Teech is a dangerous man, the Most Dangerous Threat to the World Government and Luffy. Marshall D. Teech’s chaos, ambition, and achievement’s are what I find the most captivating as a Villain.


SECOND FIGHT

Azula from Avatar
Character
: Azula

From: Avatar The Last Airbender (Animated Series that primered on Nickleodeon in the late 2000s to early 2010s/ Lowkey could pass as an anime tbh...has all the markers of one just without some of the tropes common with anime coming out of Japan.)

A Very Brief Synopsis on Who Azula was:
Azula was the princess of the Fire Nation who served as the primary antagonistic force in the Series. She was the daughter of the Fire Nation’s leader; Ozai and was the younger sister of the Prince Zuko who later defected. Her personality in brief words: sadistic, manipulative, strategic, cunning, ruthless and ambitious. Throw all of that in a blender and you got the most enjoyable villian of the series by a mile. Azula’s personality dominated the screen whenever she was present and practically carried the antagonistic side against the main cast. While these characteristics are the markings of a cold, caculated perfectionist...she was instead forced to put that up as a mask to harbor her biggest instability: fear of rejection. You see Azula’s upbringing as a child basically made her turn into what she eventually became and in her eventual fall that instability is brought up to the surface. Put in order to understand this, I would have to talk about her upbringing briefly and how both her parents shaped her personality.

As previously said Azula was born into royalty. She had a mother called Ursa who was compassionate and caring. Her father was the complete opposite, cruel, and looking to conquer the rest of the world whether they liked it or not and he shot down anyone who opposed. Because of this he basically saw Zuko and Azula as essentially war tools to be taken advantage of to use for his end goal. They were both born firebenders like him so his expectations were naturally very high for them to play a big role in this world takeover he had planned. From the get go it was established in the flashback that Zuko was closer to his mother and subsequently Azula was closer to her father. This was the result of Ozai favoring Azula over Zuko because of the vast difference in talent and power when it came to firebending. As a result Zuko was practically neglected by Ozai for most of his childhood so Ursa always cared for him more. Azula became jealous of this and because she was already so close to her father, some of his negative traits rubbed off on her even as a child. She viewed Ozai as the only person who acknowledged her and her mother Ursa scolded many times for being unnecessarily cruel. Perhaps the best example was when Iroh(Ozai’s brother who was the Fire Nation ruler at the time) found himself in a potentially deadly situation in battle. Zuko and Ursa reacted how any of us would, Azula on the otherhand was already elated about how he would be replaced by her father. This was the ambitious nature of Azula just a child.

In short the reason why she became such a sadistic and cruel person was because of the expectations set of being a perfect child to her father; who was just as cruel and longed for world domination. Zuko couldn’t meet these overbearing expectations, he was neglected and Ursa cared for him more. Her perception of Ursa and what she thought she lacked; her mother’s love is when Azula’s instability is born. Azula always thought her mother feared her and took that as rejection. As a result Azula basically tries to discard part of what makes us human; empathy and used fear to manipulate others for personal gain. This fires back at her and contributes towards her eventual fall when her closest friends leave her.

What’s really amazing to me about this is that even though Azula only respected her father and wanted to meet his favor, when it became evident that she was only a means to an end she basically unraveled. It really shows that even an almost perfect prodigy like Azula still was a human deep down and had actual insecurties/vulnerabilities.


This couldn’t be more evident in this scene:

I could go on but I feel like this is enough lol, Azula has a deep psychological make up...so deep you find numerous articles and videos on Youtube doing rounds on and from different angles. To me what makes her a damn good villian was how well written her story was and she wasn’t just a cold and calculative perfectionist just because the plot called for it, not even close. It was the result of her complicated upbringing and her father’s cut throat expectations that turned her into a monster but when she realized that she basically traded in her empathy for it was too late. So basically in conclusion what I like about Azula is that despite the fact that she had these quality characertistics that made her an awesome and enjoyable villian had behind it she had a complicated past and a lost touch of what makes part of one human. The writers portrayed and executed this in excellent fashion througout the series and anyone who hasn’t seen ATLA would just have to watch it to see what I’m talking about.

Briefly going through the remaining category;

Achievements: As you may already have picked up...she was a prodigy in firebending and vastly better than her brother Zuko. As Ozai put it; Azula was “born lucky” and Zuko was “lucky that he was born”. While that was harsh af lmao you couldn’t really argue Zuko was close to Azula in terms of sheer talent. She was one of few who also achieved mastery of lightning bending, a technique that was only acessible with the complete mastery of firebending. She naturally had many feats in the show, almost killed the MC (Aang) at one point and outclassed Zuko many times. Perhaps my favorite scene that emphasized the raw difference between the two was in this fight;
Tho admittedly very early in the series, you can see how she doesn’t even bother to use firebending and trash talks Zuko (to throw him off his game, that’s her strategic and manipulative nature on full display right there) throughout the entire way, only until he’s pretty much down for the count is when she goes for the knockout using lightning bending.


And I guess I can stop here lol. Could definitely say and show more but hopefully this ain’t too long. A few sentences just wouldn’t do this character justice.

VS

Ozymandias
Ozymandias from the Watchmen movie :

Why he is great ?

- He "won". Unlike other villains, his plan worked and it was almost flawlessly done. The good guys didn't win magically in the end.

- His motivations : He did what he did because he thought it was the only way to save the world. He was a former hero yet he killed a lot of people for his own version of the "greater good". Killed millions to save billions. It is so well done that at one point you even ask yourself if it was the only way to save earth (obviously not).

- He can kick ass like no other in his world. He was a badass from the beginning of the movie to its end. He consistently stomped every opponents he faced.

- He has so much style, either in hero costume or in casual clothes. Thanks to Matthew Goode who played his part like a boss.

- His relationship with other characters : for society he embodies the perfect hero with morality etc while he is doing dark shit behind the scene. The Comedian (his main enemy) is the complete opposite : he is seen as dark by everyone and he is officially doing dark shit for the government, but in the end it was him who tried to stop Ozymandias plan because even for him it was too much.

- He is only a human yet he managed to trick a « god ». Dr.Manhattan is nigh omniscient nigh all powerful being.


THIRD FIGHT

Darth Vader
"Everyone knows who Vader is, this description is totally unnecessary!

The helmet. The breathing. The black. His presence is amazeballs.

I love him because he's not just powerful, but also his fall to the dark side was paved with good intentions. And at the end, he managed to feel remorse.

VS

Griffith from Berserk
Griffith is the perfect villlain:

Here's why

You start off by looking up to him

Griffith begins the series as the established leader of a mercenary band, and takes the main character (Guts/Gattsu/Gatts) under his wing.
Not only that, but he's a brilliant tactician that does not come from a noble background. Consequentially, this means that he's fighting the man (or in this case, the established system of nobility and born titles which defined the worth of many by birth in the medieval ages), and he's doing this by "pulling himself up by his own bootstraps" (I hate that phrase).
Throughout the start of the series, we not only see Griffith lead the Band of the Hawk to victory, we see him upset the established order of the world (well, Midland, in this case).
And above all else, he's extremely charismatic. We look up to him.



He quickly gains our trust

Throughout the beginning of the story, we see many references where members of the Band of the Hawk go on and on about how amazing Griffith is. Everybody fawns over him.
He's like the popular kid in school (only with a lot more tactical knowledge). Sure, the other generals in the Band are looked up to by their troops (even that little shit Corkus (video)), but none are anywhere near as well loved as Griffith, and for good reason. He organized them, lead them to victory, treated them well, and put them on a path of being recognized for their skills as opposed to their birth (or he just gave them the spoils of war as per the norm - whatever). He seems to authentically care for those that work closely with him, and even worked to save Guts from a nasty predicament or 2 (ZOD!) during their time together.


We root for him

He's also not someone to be screwed with. Griffith knows how to plan on and off of the battlefield. All of his moves are calculated. This is already admirable on its own, but the execution of his plans are what really make us want to root for him. We see how the nobility plans against him, and we want Griffith to succeed. We want him to shove it in their stupid, cake-eating noble faces that a common-born man is better than they are. We want to see his goals realized, in the beginning of this story.
We admire him for everything that he does, and for his dream.

He ruins everything

...but then we figure out how far he'll really go to achieve this dream.
Griffith betrays our trust, and not in any lighthearted way. This is why he's such a well written villain. He doesn't just forget to show up to our party, or stop responding to our texts. All those people that look up to him? He literally lets all but 2 of them get eaten alive. Eaten alive, or torn apart in horrific ways.
Of the 2 that don't die, one is mutilated (Guts), and one is raped into a near-catatonic state (Casca).
In this one action, for many fans Griffith goes from a Christ-like figure to a character akin go the Devil himself.

Why does this matter?

No matter how good of a reputation you have, your actions define you. One misdeed, regardless of the reasoning behind it, can mar your reputation beyond repair.
In Dante's Inferno, the center of hell is reserved for traitors. Right next to Satan are several of them, including Judas and Cain (two characters who are forever remembered by one key decision they made).
Being a traitor doesn't put you in anyone's good graces, and many people see Griffith as a traitor.
So what? There are plenty of traitors in manga/anime, right? Why should Griffith get more hate than them for betraying everyone?
  1. Because of what he represents.​
  2. Because of who he betrays.​
  3. Because of what this means.​
What Griffith represents, originally, is something that a lot of us can identify with. His ideals and his dreams contrast greatly with the chaos and horror of Berserk's world. Griffith doesn't want a castle - he wants to break society's limitations, cast away entitlement, and achieve greatness through actions, not through a station in life. Many of us want this as well.
During the actions of the eclipse, Griffith betrays what he represents to many of us. He also betrays several characters that we've grown to love.



That really pisses off a lot of fans, especially because it was Griffith's conscious choice to do this.

What does this mean?

This means we have to come face to face with watching one of our heroes fall short.
What if it was Corkus that betrayed everyone? Or one of the noblemen? Maybe the king, or some secondary character that they were allied with? Yeah, we'd hate them, but that hate would be nowhere near the level of that reserved for Griffith. We could make peace with the other characters being traitors.
Not Griffith, though. Watching Griffith betray us stings. Griffith was never supposed to be a traitor.
That's why we hate Griffith so much: because we loved him, and he turned out to be something else than what we thought, in terrible fashion.
But hey, who knows. Perhaps Griffith is really playing 4D chess, and this is all just a long game to save the world from the God Hand?

Would that really matter?



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Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
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:pepecorn:


I know Azula is awesome. i love her.
But there's one character that, to me, really set the bar high for cool villains in avatar: Hama.
Her only problem was being a "villain of the week". But damn, her episode is one of the coolest in the entire show.
My dude, do you wanna participate in the Best MC tournament? Yesterday you seemed like you do.
 
#15
I know Azula is awesome. i love her.
But there's one character that, to me, really set the bar high for cool villains in avatar: Hama.
Her only problem was being a "villain of the week". But damn, her episode is one of the coolest in the entire show.
Bruh i remember seeing that and that was the first time i feel weird about cartoon. I like how Avatar producers/workers handle that.
 
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