Speculations Blackbeard is not the son of Xebec

[Monkey D Theories]

So with all the reverences Blackbeard has to Xebec, him making his base at the island where the Rocks pirates were founded and naming his ship after Xebec, many people have come to speculate that perhaps blackbeard is actually the son of Xebec.

While the clearly have parallels, with both being, or at least seeming to be "evil Ds" who defined an entire generation, I don't think it makes sense for Blackbeard to be the son of Xebec. Why?

It is blatantly obvious that Blackbeard respects Xebec. If not then he has no reason to pay homage to him with by having his base at beehive or naming his ship after Xebec. So if blackbeard respects Xebec so much, why wouldn't he outright state himself as the son of Xebec if this was true? He could have easily done it at marineford and it would have given him a ton of notoriety. In fact, if he really is the son of Xebec, why does he even call himself Marshall D Teach?

If he is the son of Xebec why wouldn't he bring it up during his fight with Whitebeard. In fact, why wouldn't whitebeard know, given that it was implied that WB was Xebec's right hand man. Why doesn't anyone know? The marines were able to find out about ace, why couldn't they find out about blackbeard if he was really the son of Xebec?

it doesn't make sense. So what is the Xebec blackbeard connection?

Perhaps Blackbeard was simply inspired by him. We know that Xebec knew knowledge that the WG considered taboo. Perhaps this knowledge somehow fell into Blackbeard's hands. Maybe blackbeard found Xebec's diary. Maybe Blackbeard had some sort of a Shanks x Luffy relationship with one of the members of the Rocks pirates(Ou Choko? Silver axe?). Regardless, put simply, I think the only direct connection between Blackbeard and Xebec is that he inherited his will and that blackbeard is most likely not his son.

 

[Chrono]

Yes he is.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Blackbeard intentionally laid low for decades before gaining notoriety
Most of the world hasn’t heard of Xebec seeing as the WG covered up most (if not all) of his exploits
Ace used his mother’s surname instead of his father’s (albeit for different reasons)

Based on those reasons, it’s totally plausible that he could be the son of Rocks.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

I prefer will.

So I agree with you.

 

[Xione]

Hes just inspired by him for sure

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Anything is possible.

Just like Ace, Teach could also be using mother side name to not gain too much attention before he is ready to take on the wrath of Marines n Yonkou.

You see xebec wasn't any other Yonkou like threat to WG, bt much beyond and once they get to know his son is alive, Teach would be the immediate attntion of Marines. This could easily explain hkm keeping this secret until this point.
Afterall he stayed low in WB crew for so long, this is believable in comparison.

Tho yes Teach being an inspiration is also possible.

Bt being blood related makes more compelling story imo, so there is major chance Oda would use that. I think he will let the World know soon enough, after acquiring something he recently head out to. After that he would be confident enough and will declare the war on WG likee Xebec did in the past.

 

[Just a member]

Agree with you. The father son theory is too easy and cheap plus it would be a bit strange if it pops out of the blue without any hint in the past events. And it is way better if this is, and most likely is, the first case of evil inherited will.

After this it would be cool to have also some old nasty terminator marine that Akainu looked up to and had as a role model (maybe Kong?), after all at this point we can say that Aokiji had probably Garp as his role model.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I think this Roxs guy is something Oda just thought of

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Honestly, I am NOOOT on board with any of those points:
1- BB being Xebec Son
2- BB taking Xebec role
3- BB took his Yami DF

For me, I do not believe Oda introduced Xebec "who is supposed to be Lurking legend who will make a MOVE" to actually be dead and someone else takes his role (Blackbeard)

In my personal opinion, Oda wanted to create an enemy that by defeating him, it will be the equivalent to defeating one of those characters who were said to be the TOP 3 (Roger/WB/Garp)

Basically, non of the current Yonko can be said to be equal to the above three characters in their prime! However, Xebec according to Sengoku was the STRONGEST person Roger fought. Meaning higher than WB even if it was by a slight margin.

The ONLY PERSON who can be that if reintroduced and be an ENEMY for Luffy and be on par with prime (Roger/WB/Garp) would surely be Xebec. Cause that's the ONLY way for Oda to guarantee Luffy to have reached Roger's level or even surpass him.

All 4 current Yonko are NOT being considered on the same plane as (Roger/WB/Garp) in their prime.

Lastly, regarding BB's ship name means Xebec. It can mean that BB was "Inspired" by Xebec in his old days. Which is also why, BB sailed under the right hand man of xebec, which is WB.

However, because I think it's just an "inspiration". You can end up seeing the NEW parallel here cause Oda doesn't repeat stuff the same way in exact manner:

1- Luffy was inspired by Shanks
2- BB was inspired by Xebec

Meaning, I truly believe that Oda AFTER this current war ends, Oda will crown Luffy as a New Yonko. Which will mean it's time for Luffy and Shanks to meet up.

While that is happening, Luffy meeting his inspiration, Blackbeard ALSO meets his inspiration, Xebec makes a comeback.

New alliances forms for a new war:

Red Hair Pirates + SH Pirates vs BB Pirates + Xebec (and his pirates since I'm assuming he will not comeback alone)

 

[Finalbeta]

He is probably the son of Rocks

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Honestly, I am NOOOT on board with any of those points:
1- BB being Xebec Son
2- BB taking Xebec role
3- BB took his Yami DF

For me, I do not believe Oda introduced Xebec "who is supposed to be Lurking legend who will make a MOVE" to actually be dead and someone else takes his role (Blackbeard)

In my personal opinion, Oda wanted to create an enemy that by defeating him, it will be the equivalent to defeating one of those characters who were said to be the TOP 3 (Roger/WB/Garp)

Basically, non of the current Yonko can be said to be equal to the above three characters in their prime! However, Xebec according to Sengoku was the STRONGEST person Roger fought. Meaning higher than WB even if it was by a slight margin.

The ONLY PERSON who can be that if reintroduced and be an ENEMY for Luffy and be on par with prime (Roger/WB/Garp) would surely be Xebec. Cause that's the ONLY way for Oda to guarantee Luffy to have reached Roger's level or even surpass him.

All 4 current Yonko are NOT being considered on the same plane as (Roger/WB/Garp) in their prime.

Lastly, regarding BB's ship name means Xebec. It can mean that BB was "Inspired" by Xebec in his old days. Which is also why, BB sailed under the right hand man of xebec, which is WB.

However, because I think it's just an "inspiration". You can end up seeing the NEW parallel here cause Oda doesn't repeat stuff the same way in exact manner:

1- Luffy was inspired by Shanks
2- BB was inspired by Xebec

Meaning, I truly believe that Oda AFTER this current war ends, Oda will crown Luffy as a New Yonko. Which will mean it's time for Luffy and Shanks to meet up.

While that is happening, Luffy meeting his inspiration, Blackbeard ALSO meets his inspiration, Xebec makes a comeback.

New alliances forms for a new war:

Red Hair Pirates + SH Pirates vs BB Pirates + Xebec (and his pirates since I'm assuming he will not comeback alone)

He never said he the strongest and PK Roger fought later on to a standstill to WB.

 

[Blackbeard]

Luffy and Teach are the two most prominent threats for Imu. because these two remind him of Roger and Xebec and not because they are their children. remember when Stelly said whomever sets on the empty throne would be the King of the World (世界の王 Sekai no Ō). that's the same goal of Xebec those 4 are the most powerful D. holders in terms of will power.


Xebec was interested to know about WG history. Teach's hobby is researching history.

Teach and Xebec recruited the worst.
Luffy and Roger recruited the best.

Teach and Xebec have no problem killing their crew.
Luffy and Roger have their moral codes.

Teach is Luffy's most formidable pirate opponent
Xebec is Roger's most formidable pirate opponent


Shanks was given the strawhat because he was entrusted by Roger to help the rightful seed ( Luffy ) and destroy the bad seed ( Teach ).

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

He never said he the strongest and PK Roger fought later on to a standstill to WB.

Didn't Sengoku say that about Xebec?
Or was Jaiminibox translation wrong?

 

[Erkan12]

Blackbeard is not the son of Xebec???

Who said in the manga he was?

 

[Zenos7]

So if blackbeard respects Xebec so much, why wouldn't he outright state himself as the son of Xebec if this was true? He could have easily done it at marineford and it would have given him a ton of notoriety.

If he is the son of Xebec why wouldn't he bring it up during his fight with Whitebeard

Uhm, maybe because the readers were not aware of rocks or xebec in any way, therefore making blackbeard proclaim he is the son of xebec very weird and confusing?

Blackbeard is not the son of Xebec???

Who said in the manga he was?

No one, this thread is an answer to people speculating about it.

 

[Erkan12]

No one, this thread is an answer to people speculating about it.

And that deserves a thread? Now we will create threads to answer the things that have never mentioned in the manga.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

And that deserves a thread? Now we will create threads to answer the things that have never mentioned in the manga.

You see that tag before the post title that screams SPECULATION? It’s just a discussion, bro, you don’t have to participate...with Rocks’ proper introduction and the obvious parallels between him and Blackbeard, this isn’t too far fetched a topic.

 

[ardym]

maybe he is not his son but he has inherited his will , he is the second Rocks like Luffy is the second Roger
but being his is still possible his mother could just did what Ace's mother did and deat at his birth.

 

[Zenos7]

And that deserves a thread? Now we will create threads to answer the things that have never mentioned in the manga.

People were jumping to conclusions because of the island and name of BB's ship, so yeah, it makes sense someone might be interested to discuss this in a thread lmao.

Also, what @Jew D. Boy said:

You see that tag before the post title that screams SPECULATION? It’s just a discussion, bro, you don’t have to participate...with Rocks’ proper introduction and the obvious parallels between him and Blackbeard, this isn’t too far fetched a topic.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Uhm, maybe because the readers were not aware of rocks or xebec in any way, therefore making blackbeard proclaim he is the son of xebec very weird and confusing?

but if he was then it would make no sense for him not to do that. Oda could have just introduced Xebec earlier.