Versus Battle Can arceus survive two meteors when one nearly killed him:Arceus (Pokemon) vs Madara (Naruto)

[Bob74h]

What's your counterargument of Madara fighting and damaging a multiversal character? Muh meteor lol.

Almost like im not arguing arceus is mutiverse lv, Have you even been paying attention to this chat?
not like you even have a counter argument to the anti feats beyond consensus doe. Something you clearly showed

Still no argument why arceus cant be a literal duck following your if enough believe something then it's true sorta logic as there really would be no counter argument as any absurdity can be justified when you discard the idea of objectivity as you have done

Tl;dr version: "I talk too much shit".

That's not even close to what was said.
If you wanted a summary then it would be. Your wrong and ignorant

but that would mean admitting what you are so cant have that now can we

Are Goku and Co not universe level because bullets damaged them? Keep the same energy to them you loser.

The difference with goku and arceus would be that, Goku has 20 something statements supporting this sort of tier in dbs not to mention couple feats spread across numerous arcs.
Arceus has none of that. Let me know when arceus clashing blows with dialga shook the universe as what happened with beerus and goku. It never happened as unlike with goku.

It's all just fan fiction and that's why, your calling me a loser. it upsets you so much that someone shalt dare question the consensus something which you religiously follow as if a bible.
Like if you question the bible then you get called a sinner, Is that not exactly what your doing here??

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''Humans continue to be foolish creatures, we think we're so advanced but when pushed, we still prioritize emotions over logic when human being's overcome with hatred they'll keep fighting without concern for self-interest or reason regardless of what they might stand to gain or lose'' - Tanya


Tanya was right btw, Acting upon emotion.
humans are but foolish creatures

 

[Aster]

This is a retarded post.
You didnt want to ask anybody an opinion you just want to prove something you already had in mind before the creation of the topic.

Arceus and madara are incomparable. Arceus obliterates.

 

[T2K Baka]

Holy shit,if its energy,it is DC

If i can create a Universe,i can also unleash the same amount energy to destroy.

You would be surprised that so many people would disagree with you here

 

[Biotorex]

Arceus blinks the verse. Stop the Arceus lowball/trolling.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[T2K Baka]

Arceus wipes the verse, this isn't a competition. Ladara lost to fodder Black Zetsu, he's planet level max. Madara has no hax that can help him here and gets destroyed.

 

[Bob74h]

You didnt want to ask anybody an opinion you just want to prove something you already had in mind before the creation of the topic.

Your same group has a set opinion and has verbatim refused to have discourse on the matter.
I am open minded, it's you guys that have verbatim admitted that your not

DONT QUESTION ME, that's you guys not me. lol

Arceus blinks the verse. Stop the Arceus lowball/trolling.

he still got beat by a meteor

you are free to hate me for pointing out the facts but the facts dont charge just you have a fan fiction which contradicts the story

Arceus and madara are incomparable. Arceus obliterates.

Arceus dies to meteors and madara drops them from the sky.
Arceus gets one shot, Stans of the character are in constant denial because their fan fiction is not real



Mutioverse lv rando pokemon. Is these rando jobbers able to destroy the universe or perhaps your just wrong

Ladara lost to fodder Black Zetsu

Weaker version of the same character blocked kaguya's attacks. Remind me again why its a outlier

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The supreme king solos reality denying copium addicts as per the usual. Wait for the salt on the consensus worshipers as if the your not a real debater was not triggering enough to the unlightened masses

 

[soheilhazrat]

At the end of the day, multiverse battles are very very hard to scale imo

 

[Bob74h]

At the end of the day, multiverse battles are very very hard to scale imo

it's just that arceus is not multiverse lv
Like arceus was rampaging and trying to destroy everything as revenge for humans betraying him yet somehow his attacks are only able to destroy like a city with consecutive damage

The versus coomunity is just wrong as they always are
Like planet lv jiraya is something that would be a thing if you took any of their bs at face value

 

[T2K Baka]

Weaker version of the same character blocked kaguya's attacks. Remind me again why its a outlier

Weaker version of what? Madara or Black Zetsu? None of them are in these panels. Also Kaguya has 0 battle experience and that's literally the only reason she lost. Madara isn't as powerful as her and she caps at planetary with her ETSB which she doesn't scale to.

Using the movie's one outlier from PIS isn't gonna make Madara beat Arceus. One being existed before space and time were created and the other after.

https://media.giphy.com/media/6JIyrqm6cFXalTNOJD/giphy-downsized-large.gif

 

[Bob74h]

Weaker version of what? Madara or Black Zetsu? None of them are in these panels.

weaker version of obito who was the one who stabbed madara

Obito without zetsu would logically be weaker then him with it right??

Also Kaguya has 0 battle experience

Still does not change the fact that he reacted to her attacks

One being existed before space and time were created and the other after.

That's untrue, Arceus was born in a egg and then shaped the already existing universe

But even then, it's made very clear that pokedex entries are not accurate such as claiming that aceus has 1000 thousands arms when clearly he only has 4 limbs

Or saying nine tails is actually human when both the anime and other material make it perfectly clear that's not true

There's more examples of this but whatever, The writers of these dex entries clearly are not talking with relation to anyone hence them being highly inconsistent with the actual series

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The op says anime versions so even then, Pokedex entries wouldt count anyway

 

[T2K Baka]

weaker version of obito who was the one who stabbed madara

Obito without zetsu would logically be weaker then him with it right??

Now I see what you're saying, but he didn't block it casually. He was down for the count, ur acting like he was blocking it without any problems. You're blowing that way out of proportion lol.

Still does not change the fact that he reacted to her attacks

Anyone can react to attacks from people that are inexperienced as an experienced fighter. It's like saying a featherweight boxing champion reacted to a heavyweight rookie boxer who doesn't even know how to throw a punch and because he reacted to that boxer that means he's relative.

Even using anime only, we still see that when his energy was released, it was bigger than the galaxies around. He's a more lore based character and there is no way Madara kills him.

- His energy caused 2 dimensions to collide from waking up
- Just by travelling to Earth it causes two Universes to shake
- Stopped time
- and is much much faster due to the distance he crossed in such a short time

Madara has no chance. That Meteor was PIS.

 

[Bob74h]

Anyone can react to attacks from people that are inexperienced as an experienced fighter.

Except when naruto who was way less experienced then a,jr
still blitzed him

Or when juubito blitzed tobirama and hashirama despite less experience

Experience does not equate to speed else these notable blitz moments would never occur

Even using anime only, we still see that when his energy was released, it was bigger than the galaxies around

You know, That was not because of power right??
He has dominion over his dimension so he can warp it as he wants or likes. it's like arguing multiverse lv kaguya as she can manipulate her dimensions at will

- Stopped time

Guldo is multiverse lv then??
He can stop time

- His energy caused 2 dimensions to collide from waking up

Dimensions are literally only planet sized
we actually see a display of them and they are relative in size to earth


You know how the cosmology in pokemon works right?? The whole giratina movie had distortions caused by palkia and dialga's fight in the prior movie meaning that alterations in the norm cause literal physical changes in the world. you just dont understand pokemon

Madara has no chance. That Meteor was PIS.

So was the random pokemon negging him thing??

Or when mamoswhine fodderized dialga??

Is everything in the universe, just a outlier if so maybe it's infact your high ends which are the outliers here

 

[Aster]

You are right! Madara beats Arceus.

Are you happy now?

 

[Bob74h]

You are right! Madara beats Arceus.

That's why im the supreme king.
Im always right

Are you happy now?

Only once you swear fealty to the supreme king.

The current king of worstgen. Supreme king bob
Im the skeleton and the skulls are the army of consensus worshipers. That have been slained in my wake.

Anyways, nobody has yet to beat me still the king and forever will be as nobody is as supreme of a debater then yours truly.

 

[T2K Baka]

Except when naruto who was way less experienced then a,jr
still blitzed him

Or when juubito blitzed tobirama and hashirama despite less experience

Experience does not equate to speed else these notable blitz moments would never occur

You're misrepresenting what I said. I never said experience beats speed. Those examples don't even work since all of the people involved here have actual training and experience. Kaguya literally has like 0 battle experience or training. If she had even the smallest bit, she would've clapped everyone instead of getting sealed.

You know, That was not because of power right??
He has dominion over his dimension so he can warp it as he wants or likes. it's like arguing multiverse lv kaguya as she can manipulate her dimensions at will

Except Kaguya doesn't actually create her dimensions, she calls Earth one of her dimension, but that existed before she was even there. The creation trio comes from Arceus who actually created them.

Is everything in the universe, just a outlier if so maybe it's infact your high ends which are the outliers here

Yes everything you showed is PIS. Arceus scales to the creation trio and has hax that Madara can't do shit about. EE, time stop, reality warping.

Guldo is multiverse lv then??
He can stop time

When did I say time-stop makes you multiversal? Don't put words in my mouth. What is Madara gonna do against time stop? Nothing.


Arceus has too much hax for Madara to do anything.

 

[Bob74h]

Kaguya literally has like 0 battle experience or training. If she had even the smallest bit,

Nice fan fiction.
Too bad, it was revealed that she fought her two sons

You're misrepresenting what I said. I never said experience beats speed

You did say that, you just got debunked on the matter so your back tracking

Yes everything you showed is PIS. Arceus scales to the creation trio and has hax that Madara can't do shit about. EE, time stop, reality warping.

The World is a lie
The pokemon manga are lies,the anime lies. Everything but me and my crones ofc

Just accept that your wrong and move on, If every source in the world says opposed to your argument then maybe your argument is just get this wrong

When did I say time-stop makes you multiversal? Don't put words in my mouth. What is Madara gonna do against time stop? Nothing.

Madara cant kill him cause of time stop.
if time stopping has no relation to durability under your own logic then why bring it up as a reason why madara cant kill him?


the intent was clear, You just got made to look like a fool as by the same logic then dio would be vastly stronger then madara but unlike you. Im not going to parrot the consensus till my dying breath as im not one to stick my head in the sand even whhen proven wrong

she calls Earth one of her dimension

proof of that being??

 

[T2K Baka]

Nice fan fiction.
Too bad, it was revealed that she fought her two sons

She has no battle training. She's just powerful af. What kind of formal training did she go through? Also using filler arcs don't mean anything. Show me panels of them fighting in the manga.

You did say that, you just got debunked on the matter so your back tracking

No you misunderstood me or are misrepresenting. I was talking about someone with actual training vs someone who is faster. You can predict what they are gonna do if they are telegraphing their move.

The World is a lie
The pokemon manga are lies,the anime lies. Everything but me and my crones ofc

Just accept that your wrong and move on, If every source in the world says opposed to your argument then maybe your argument is just get this wrong

Except every source doesn't oppose my argument. Hope you realize that Arceus and the creation trio are abstract entities. Beating an avatar doesn't mean you beat the entity. Madara can't do shit. Simple as that. If you wanna say the avatar, then maybe you can make an argument.

Madara cant kill him cause of time stop.
if time stopping has no relation to durability under your own logic then why bring it up as a reason why madara cant kill him?

Do you lack reading comprehension? I mentioned time-stop as some feat. Arceus stops time, and what does Madara do? Gets destroyed while being frozen. Did you also forget reality warping was something I mentioned as well?

he intent was clear, You just got made to look like a fool as by the same logic then dio would be vastly stronger then madara but unlike you. Im not going to parrot the consensus till my dying breath as im not one to stick my head in the sand even whhen proven wrong

The intent was clear, you just didn't see it. Who is bringing Dio into this? Again you are misrepresenting my point because you couldn't respond to the hax Arceus has.

It's fine tho

im not one to stick my head in the sand even whhen proven wrong

You basically just admitted you're in denial. There's no point in continuing this then.

proof of that being??

She didn't create her dimensions.

 

[Bob74h]

She has no battle training.

Your back tracking
you said battle experience now your changing it to battle training

Also good job, Editing your prior comment to make it seem like you didt just now make this up

What kind of formal training did she go through?

Same amount arceus went though none
So why does it matter, When it's literally not a factor in this fight

Except every source doesn't oppose my argument

Yes everything you showed is PIS.

Everything is a lie.
why even talk about arceus when you have to ignore everything just to have him at the tier which you have him at, Might aswell just be citing fan fiction at this point

eating an avatar doesn't mean you beat the entity.

Arceus does not have a avatar
The dimension which arceus resides within is said as his space not arceus himself

Your guys are still using the out of context cyrus statement, not years later and you people still argue the exact same way
Anyways giratina was said as banished meaning the reverse world was not his true form and cannot be by any degree of objectivity

Anyways nice fan fiction

You basically just admitted you're in denial. There's no point in continuing this then.

Your taking, Me out of context
I said im not going to parrot consensus to my dying breath unlike you would stick their head in the sand

Even the quoted comment which you took out of context says im not one to stick my head into the sand when proven wrong, Not only did you take me out of context and then put words into my mouth. you managed to make a remark about me calling you out for being the ignorant sheep that you are about me calling myself a denalist so yea just shows how disingenuous you guys are.

I dont have make fun of you by making things up, You do quite well on your own as this horrid slander nonsense proves

Still no proof of anything, It's why you hated me using the anime as you need to keep things nice and vague so nobody can question your nonsense with facts regarding the story
unfortunate for you though, I am not going to play your games and im not going to stay without facts so you can stay mad about that, however if the entire forum hating me wouldt stop me from doing as im doing then surely your stupid fan fiction wont ether


Facts >> some randos on the internet
I dont care about what your tribe thinks and im aware that pisses you off as your calling me a denialist over me not conforming to your group of morons