Speculations Celestial Rebellion: Myosgard and Otohime's Path. Will other Celestial Dragons Rebel against Imu?

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Gunko and Killingham act very human. Are they doing evil?

Yeah, duh.

But, you could EASILY see both of these people being Straw Hat allies, if it wasn't for their alignment.

The Celestial Dragons are also Imu's slaves. Shalria has no idea what the Void Century is; she's a coddled brat. Charlos is a borderline inhuman being because of how he was raised.

Homing realized this, and tried to save his family, but he was too brainwashed to understand humanity itself, and realize how he would be treated.

Look at Homing's relative, Shivercalero. Literally, Google him, and weep.

Who wants their kids to end up like that?

Killingham strikes me as a potential traitor. Killingham has been kind to Gunko, dislikes Sommers antics, and made sure to inform the parents of the children. I think some of the Celestial Dragons will be Katakuri-characters: they will want Luffy to save their family, in the ways they can't.

Would the Revs really be able to sabotage Mary Geoise, without info? NO. I think they've got leaks. We already know the Holy Land has Rats, SQUEAK

Thoughts? Will we see a faction of Celestial Dragon rebels? We've seen traitors in every other crew (besides Shanks... Rockstar???), even with Sanji betraying the crew to save Zeff.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Well to be fair they do seem to still participate in the "rabbit hunting" events though

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Well to be fair they do seem to still participate in the "rabbit hunting" events though

Do we know when the last one was? I thought they might have stopped after God Valley was such a disaster.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Do we know when the last one was? I thought they might have stopped after God Valley was such a disaster.

I don't think so? But for one:
I don't see why they'd stop. I think God Valley only happened because the Rocks pirates were just being sly bastards who tried to steal the treasure there, and since the Rocks pirates are gone, they don't really need to worry about that anymore.
Two: Sommers has a ton of medals, which I think are from various "rabbit hunts" that he won in the past.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I don't think so? But for one:
I don't see why they'd stop. I think God Valley only happened because the Rocks pirates were just being sly bastards who tried to steal the treasure there, and since the Rocks pirates are gone, they don't really need to worry about that anymore.
Two: Sommers has a ton of medals, which I think are from various "rabbit hunts" that he won in the past.

I'm of the mindset that Imu is Big Mom on steroids: overprotective parent who views her kids as slaves.

I think Imu shut down the Human Hunts after God Valley, but, will start a new one soon.

Got a bad feeling the Celestial Dragons are going to look at Fish-Man Island, and hunt the Fish-Men/Merfolk for food. It's the kind of disgusting escalation I'd expect from them.

I believe Fish-Man Island will lose protective/government status due to 3 things:

1. Jinbe is literally on a Pirate Crew that most of the world considers to be international terrorists. Luffy has attacked Marineford, and, leading into the next point:
2. Shirahoshi was defended by Sai and Leo, Luffy's subordinates, who made it clear they work for Luffy BY ANNOUNCING IT LIVE AFTER DRAGON DRILLING CHARLOS (Reloaded, put your pants back on, wrong kind of dragon)
3. Fish-Man Island is straight up Luffy's territory now

(Alabasta is similar:

1. Princess Nefertari Vivi is a Straw Hat Pirate. The Marines covered it up, but, yeah. Who is Vivi with? Morgans, and he's mad at her. Vivi will escape Morgans, and Morgans, absolutely sick of her shit, will reveal to the whole world at Imu's request that Vivi is a Straw Hat Pirate. Like Sanji, she'll get a "Alive Only" Bounty because Imu wants to lay the pipe.)

Fish-Man Island and Alabasta shoudl lose their protective status and be seen as enemies of the World Government.

If they have an Abyss portal to Elbaph, it makes no sense they don't have one for Fish-Man Island, when we've literally seen Myosgard, a World Noble, go there.

The "Man Marked by Flames" is Shamrock; the "Mark" is the "Mark" of the Abyss, a Flame Tattoo. Shiryu said it was a black ship that caused whirlpools, and he thought it was owned by the WG.

The Whirlpools are caused by Gunko's Arrows making the sea spin. The ship being black tracks; the God's Knights wear all black. Shanks is the one guarding Roger's treasure; Shamrock has the last Poneglyph.

Shamrock was the God's Knight sent to retrieve Myosgard when he went back to Mary Geoise with Otohime. Myosgard was the sole survivor of the wreck; the WG/Celestial Dragons would send someone strong to make sure Myosgard returned after such an incident. Shamrock either has the Voice of All Things, or Top Tier Observation Haki; he sensed the Road Poneglyph from Fish-Man Island that was stolen, and took it for the WG without telling anyone.

IMO Shamrock was hated for being Shanks' brother by Imu (Lola + Chiffon and Big Mom foreshadow this, Imu hated looked at Shamrock); bringing back a Road Poneglyph is probably what put him on the path to success.

Kuzan is a spy for Sword, he literally told Teach what Sword was.

Caribou will tell Teach about Pluton and Poseidon. Kuzan will hear about Pluton and Poseidon. The Marine Fleet from Egghead will go to Wano to take Pluton, and God's Knights will go to take Shirahoshi.

Shamrock, who knows Fish-Man Island from picking up Myosgard, will be sent to kidnap Poseidon, now that Kuzan has informed the Marines about her location, to keep Teach from claiming her.

Catarina can turn into Saturn after Egghead; we know Teach's Crew has been to Fish-Man Island, they're New World Pirates. The Nine Tailed Fox is a Mythical Zoan; IMO, if works like Monoma from My Hero; Catarina can absorb 9 people + their abilities at once.

Using the Abyss as Saturn on Blackbeard's Flagship, the Saber of Xebec, Catarina Devon teleports Blackbeard and crew to Fish-Man Island to steal Shirahoshi from the WG, while Blackbeard's other group goes to Wano for Pluton.

Then, Catarina uses the Abyss to rejoin Teach on their Flagship, and they sail to Wano Act 4 with Shirahoshi and Garp as prisoners.

Who was Shirahoshi's chaperone going to Mary Geoise? Garp.

This is why Shamrock was sent back to Mary Geoise; to stop Teach from getting Shirahoshi. But, the WG doesn't realize Catarina touched Saturn, because Imu killed Saturn before Saturn could produce a report.

SO, Teach steals Shirahoshi. I'll make this its own thread once I get back from my walk, it deserves one.

Edit: Holy Law with boobs, the Blackbeard Pirates are all going to get the Abyss Mark and become quasi-immortal.

Oh.

Dang.

 

[FlyFlower]

Maybe there are nice Celestial Dragons but they have to hide.

Celestial Dragons are raised to be psychopaths. They think the world belongs to them and they can do whatever they want. To them, people are just toys until they break and are thrown into the street.

The Holy Knights' job is to maintain order in Mary geoise.
They control the behavior of the Celestial Dragon . They execute the nice Celestial Dragons like Mjosgard because he prevents Charlos from enslaving Shiraroshi.

 

[soupongo]

There will be generic good guy celestial dragons EOS, at least one princess like character who helps the SH our. This basically happens every arc

 

[Juanpiz]

There will be generic good guy celestial dragons EOS, at least one princess like character who helps the SH our. This basically happens every arc

Carlos sister as sorry for sabbody

 

[eamonpro]

Carlos sister as sorry for sabbody

Not forgiven

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Frankly, I'd rather see them all be slaughtered, but Oda is such a bleeding heart, of course he'll have to redeem them to say "not all people of a group are bad" blah blah blah bullshit.