General & Others Demons with Tech in One Piece?

[Aster]

I was very confused by the latest chapter, IMU went from being just a devil fruit user to being a full blown demon?

I have no problem with that, bar the little inconsistencies that have been pointed out in the spoiler thread. (I'm giving Oda the benefit of the doubt to fix it later/explain it)

I don't understand however how does a demon fit with an advanced Space faring civilisation?

IMU as invincible as he seems, clearly had two (or one) wars against super tech civilisations that he almost lost?

So is this like primordial beings against humanity's tech?

Very confusing those two concepts together.

What's your take?

 

[Esoteric Moniker]

It looks like Imu is an actual demonic being rather than devil fruit user. Gorosei (who get their power from Imu) introduction clearly implied this. They clearly don't want anyone knowing about their true nature, could be using 'technology' to fool people and divert their attention away from anything 'demonic' or magical. Knowing who or what they are could be the key to defeating them. Then there's the actual (ancient) tech that vegapunk etc discovered. Probably two parallel power systems, actual 'magic' (preternatural/supernatural power) and technology. I wonder if there will be "aliens" (demons disguised as such) as well as actual aliens from another planet at this point lol.

If Imu is supposed to be satan, he would have been kicked out of another plane of existence or dimension. Where there's demons, there are probably angels. Plenty of characters with physical bird wings already heavily implying something like that exists. They could be somewhat keeping team Imu in line, but not intervening for the most part as Imu would already be a prisoner of this (one piece) world. I'd bet money that Fujitora is one of them, if actual angels end up being a thing at all lol. They can beat up the demons all they want but as spirits are immortal, they can't kill them.

Now if a human (Luffy/Nika) somehow beats and utterly humiliates them in the process tom and jerry style... but why was the devil sent to a world inhabited by humans? Or are humans, the devil, demons, angels etc all originally from.. One Place.

 

[moreha9685]

AK's science research for unlimited progress in the name of a world utopia led them to enter other dimensions, including the afterlife/demonic void. They tried to harness this dimensions via technology, funneling demonic entities into fruits for wide consumption & simplified use. But some of the demons did not take kindly to this, and traversed into the AK's main dimension with the stated goal to take it over. IMU is the one demon who succeeded, erasing the AK's scientific advancements and controlling the world from the shadows, as people forgot that his kin was ever a thing.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Satan are Fallen Angel so he is part of winged race another insight to look into Lunarians were wiped out I think they were rulers of the first world . It’s possible Im is probably a Lunarian or an ally who betrayed them and ate Ancient Devil fruit .

Also mysteries of devil fruit is not new Oda hinted this is an alien technology when Endl went to moon it’s hinting towards it . I suspect they shared this technology with Lunarians for good will .

 

[Vanlax]

Well it seem like it.

The first war, humans became too advanced they've unlocked the eternal flames that awoken the primordial beings.

Second war was against an Ancient Kingdom, an advanced civilization that probably unlocked the same tech.

Whatever can unlock the eternal flames is probably the One Piece.

 

[MonsterKaido]

We also have Poseidon. It is possible both Poseidon and imu's power is some high level tech we don't understand yet. Magic = Science route is possible.

 

[Jailer]

It looks like Imu is an actual demonic being rather than devil fruit user. Gorosei (who get their power from Imu) introduction clearly implied this. They clearly don't want anyone knowing about their true nature, could be using 'technology' to fool people and divert their attention away from anything 'demonic' or magical. Knowing who or what they are could be the key to defeating them. Then there's the actual (ancient) tech that vegapunk etc discovered. Probably two parallel power systems, actual 'magic' (preternatural/supernatural power) and technology. I wonder if there will be "aliens" (demons disguised as such) as well as actual aliens from another planet at this point lol.

If Imu is supposed to be satan, he would have been kicked out of another plane of existence or dimension. Where there's demons, there are probably angels. Plenty of characters with physical bird wings already heavily implying something like that exists. They could be somewhat keeping team Imu in line, but not intervening for the most part as Imu would already be a prisoner of this (one piece) world. I'd bet money that Fujitora is one of them, if actual angels end up being a thing at all lol. They can beat up the demons all they want but as spirits are immortal, they can't kill them.

Now if a human (Luffy/Nika) somehow beats and utterly humiliates them in the process tom and jerry style... but why was the devil sent to a world inhabited by humans? Or are humans, the devil, demons, angels etc all originally from.. One Place.

They only for immortality from Im, but their transformation is mythical zoan. Just like Killingham/Gunko/Sommers