Speculations Did Loki do something to Harald ? (Chapter 1170)
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Him patting harald was power of love which broke through imu's control for some time 
But I was thinking about something more sinister. Since many people believe Loki will be the Nidhogg from Norse mythology.
I found some cool text passages about its general description.
In some texts Nidhogg is said to be called not for blessing, but for cleansing. He is not "evil", he is a force of decay. (So what if he can disrupt any link Imu has to anyone)
He doesn't destroy things just for the "sake" of destruction, but to remind us that nothing, even the divine order, is immune to the forces of time and order.
An executioner of balance, that reminds both gods and mortals that action carries weight.
So probably telling Imu, hey I am here too. You can't just do what you want without consequences.
He is part of the cosmic rhythm, the presence of decay in a living system. Reminding us that all things must evolve or perish.
(Rythm is very interesting here, reminded me back to Zoro vs Mr. 1 fight, the rythm Zoro felt to cut steel)
That's why he's often associated with other destroyer deities like Shiva (Hindu), Surtur (Norse).
Now I understand that Oda won't just copy everything 100%, but "if" we get the confirmation of the nidhogg, that would give Oda a lot of space to get creative with his powers.
And there is a lot of room for interpretation.
The few things I wrote here don't even do it justice. Nidhogg, is a very fascinating being.
Imagine that
But I was thinking about something more sinister. Since many people believe Loki will be the Nidhogg from Norse mythology.
I found some cool text passages about its general description.
In some texts Nidhogg is said to be called not for blessing, but for cleansing. He is not "evil", he is a force of decay. (So what if he can disrupt any link Imu has to anyone)
He doesn't destroy things just for the "sake" of destruction, but to remind us that nothing, even the divine order, is immune to the forces of time and order.
An executioner of balance, that reminds both gods and mortals that action carries weight.
So probably telling Imu, hey I am here too. You can't just do what you want without consequences.
He is part of the cosmic rhythm, the presence of decay in a living system. Reminding us that all things must evolve or perish.
(Rythm is very interesting here, reminded me back to Zoro vs Mr. 1 fight, the rythm Zoro felt to cut steel)
That's why he's often associated with other destroyer deities like Shiva (Hindu), Surtur (Norse).
Now I understand that Oda won't just copy everything 100%, but "if" we get the confirmation of the nidhogg, that would give Oda a lot of space to get creative with his powers.
And there is a lot of room for interpretation.
The few things I wrote here don't even do it justice. Nidhogg, is a very fascinating being.
But I was thinking about something more sinister. Since many people believe Loki will be the Nidhogg from Norse mythology.
I found some cool text passages about its general description.
In some texts Nidhogg is said to be called not for blessing, but for cleansing. He is not "evil", he is a force of decay. (So what if he can disrupt any link Imu has to anyone)
He doesn't destroy things just for the "sake" of destruction, but to remind us that nothing, even the divine order, is immune to the forces of time and order.
An executioner of balance, that reminds both gods and mortals that action carries weight.
So probably telling Imu, hey I am here too. You can't just do what you want without consequences.
He is part of the cosmic rhythm, the presence of decay in a living system. Reminding us that all things must evolve or perish.
(Rythm is very interesting here, reminded me back to Zoro vs Mr. 1 fight, the rythm Zoro felt to cut steel)
That's why he's often associated with other destroyer deities like Shiva (Hindu), Surtur (Norse).
Now I understand that Oda won't just copy everything 100%, but "if" we get the confirmation of the nidhogg, that would give Oda a lot of space to get creative with his powers.
And there is a lot of room for interpretation.
The few things I wrote here don't even do it justice. Nidhogg, is a very fascinating being.
Your part about destruction is interesting too, I was gonna say it makes me think of Shiva but you mentioned him too ofc lol:
It also makes me think of this amazing song and tragic story from Final Fantasy XIV (I've not played the game though, I don't even remember why I know about the song anymore lol.) :
I had a feeling he was cleansing Harald as well, but the decay angle is very interesting. Tsuru can do something similar with her DF too, which is probably why Doflamingo was scared of her too.
Your part about destruction is interesting too, I was gonna say it makes me think of Shiva but you mentioned him too ofc lol:
It also makes me think of this amazing song and tragic story from Final Fantasy XIV (I've not played the game though, I don't even remember why I know about the song anymore lol.) :
Your part about destruction is interesting too, I was gonna say it makes me think of Shiva but you mentioned him too ofc lol:
It also makes me think of this amazing song and tragic story from Final Fantasy XIV (I've not played the game though, I don't even remember why I know about the song anymore lol.) :
Ni-ka and Ni-dhogg?
This needs to have some payoff somehow too:
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I had a feeling he was cleansing Harald as well, but the decay angle is very interesting. Tsuru can do something similar with her DF too, which is probably why Doflamingo was scared of her too.
Your part about destruction is interesting too, I was gonna say it makes me think of Shiva but you mentioned him too ofc lol:
It also makes me think of this amazing song and tragic story from Final Fantasy XIV (I've not played the game though, I don't even remember why I know about the song anymore lol.) :
Your part about destruction is interesting too, I was gonna say it makes me think of Shiva but you mentioned him too ofc lol:
It also makes me think of this amazing song and tragic story from Final Fantasy XIV (I've not played the game though, I don't even remember why I know about the song anymore lol.) :
Tsuru is an interesting candidate to test her powers out on domi reversed characters.
Interestingly enough that Doflamingo also mentioned something about "rotting" away, which could be a parallel with the Nidhogg chewing on the World Tree and slowly decaying it.
(Although Dofi talks about something different here)
Miss him. Hope he will return to the Story.
Yeah, the destruction thing is interesting to me as well, because Nidhogg is often associated with destruction and evil, but there is another part to it. The necessity of balance. Destroying old things to create something new, which gives some sungod nika / luffy vibes, which I'll get to in your second post. Apparently, Shiva works in a similar manner (but I would have to read more into it)
I'll have to admit I've never played Final Fantasy either. I only know that the nidhogg appears in one of the Games.
Heard only good things about the franchise in General.
Very catchy soundtrack btw, listened to it twice on my way home.
Oh god, that translation thing, nidhoggr / nidogga, and that laugh, fits perfectly. Okay, I am sold on it.
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@Moewu Some more to the post I was meant to add earlier, I hope my posts and thoughts make sense lol:
Ni-ka and Ni-dhogg?
This needs to have some payoff somehow too:
Ni-ka and Ni-dhogg?
This needs to have some payoff somehow too:
Apparently, Loki dies during the events of Ragnarök, but the Nidhogg survives. (We know that devil fruits respawn.) I don't know if that's a foreshadowing for something (I hope not)
Seeing that panel with Sun God Nika again, who is said to be a destroyer or savior of the world, makes me totally understand why Loki thinks he is the Sungod.
Madame Shyarly's prophecy about a man with a straw hat destroying Fishman Island also comes to mind.
I know there is a popular theory about Catarina Devon impersonating Luffy and attacking fish-man island, but what if Luffy is really the one that attacks / destroys it ? Maybe for the greater good ? The Sun Tree Eeve also has its roots down there, perhaps it will have something to do with it.
In retrospect, it wouldn't be too shocking if Luffy really did it. He destroyed things before for the "greater good".
Namis Room in Arlong Park would be the best example of that.
I just can't think of any good reason for the destruction of fish-man island, yet. I know about the infamous destruction of the Redline theory. That could result in that, by accident ?
Or perhaps Loki will start something and later lead to that. We still have the situation with Mosa / people thinking it's Shirahoshi, and their call finding an abrupt end. If something was happening right now, I would imagine Loki storming off to go and help her, though now that he has a devil fruit, how would he reach it, lol. I doubt he has any coated ship of his size nearby.
Unless she got kidnapped by the time we return to the present, and is elsewhere now, because there is also this time phenomenon going on in Elbaf. Or Mosa isn't Shirahoshi and Oda fooling us all? So many questions, I feel like I am making things too complicated in my head.
Ay ! The mermaid quintruplets, how could I forget about them. Oda definitely choose "Nikas" design on purpose, matching one of Luffys striped shirts.
But on a serious note, yeah, naming one specific mermaid, Nika, could have more meaning behind it. "They are well-informed" on top of that. Would have to dive more into that separately. Certainly some people theorized about them already. Good that you brought that up.
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Interesting. Nidhogg was also called the "Curse-Striker"(whatever that means). It could fit the "cleansing" part. Perhaps he will be able to even free Zunesha from its curse/punishment as well. In order to help in the final war or something.
But now that you brought up the "Shadow" part, I would love to see if domi reversi works on people who don't have a Shadow anymore. Damn, this could make Moria a major player against Imu as well.
But now that you brought up the "Shadow" part, I would love to see if domi reversi works on people who don't have a Shadow anymore. Damn, this could make Moria a major player against Imu as well.
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Interesting. Nidhogg was also called the "Curse-Striker"(whatever that means). It could fit the "cleansing" part. Perhaps he will be able to even free Zunesha from its curse/punishment as well. In order to help in the final war or something.
But now that you brought up the "Shadow" part, I would love to see if domi reversi works on people who don't have a Shadow anymore. Damn, this could make Moria a major player against Imu as well.
But now that you brought up the "Shadow" part, I would love to see if domi reversi works on people who don't have a Shadow anymore. Damn, this could make Moria a major player against Imu as well.
Yeah, Moria's going to be huge going forward.
I believe Domi Reversi more or less forces your Shadow to be in control, like with Cavendish and Hakuba. Imu overlords you with negative energy, pushing your negative emotions to the top, until you succumb to them.
This is why Imu is terrified of people like Kuma/Luffy: no matter how much negativity you throw their way, they just overcome it with love.
If Loki CAN break Curses, I also wonder if this will tie into Cursed Blades.
I think Zoro will eventually end up talking to his swords, and fully fall into psychosis; Loki being the "talks to weapon dude" fits with Ragnir, and especially if he has Voice of All Things, which I'm guessing he does.
Loki telling Zoro he's using Enma wrong would SEND ME
Can't wait for all the reveals ahead. It's going to be crazy. But now that you also brought up the cursed Swords, I can't help to think of this again. It's one of those panels that just gets stuck in your head forever. I wonder what Oda was thinking when he drew that serpent / snake-like creature or if we are ever going to see it in the story specifically.
But, yeah, other than that I am all here for characters we met in the past getting their moments to shine again in the final war.
But, yeah, other than that I am all here for characters we met in the past getting their moments to shine again in the final war.