Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro take the thunder bagua fully?

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#21
but still, you can see that the trajectory of the attack stops at zoro then starts again from zoro, whereas in Law, the trajectory didnt exactly pass through Law's body
That's just a matter of it being zoomed out, Law is closer to the POV of the scan so it's easier to see it passing by him, it's not passing through anyone it's a trail of Kaidou's movement.
(Even if the trajectory stopped when it hit Zoro due to the nature of the downward swing, it's not going through him but simply starting up again past him.)

What really happened was this, it's clearer when you colour it in.
 
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(Even if the trajectory stopped when it hit Zoro due to the nature of the downward swing, it's not going through him but simply starting up again past him.)
i can agree with the rest of your points, but this particular statement bothers me a bit

What do you mean by the nature of the downward swing and it's simply starting up again past him?

are you implying Kaido stopped for a moment then started attacking again? or?
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Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
#23
i can agree with the rest of your points, but this particular statement bothers me a bit

What do you mean by the nature of the downward swing and it's simply starting up again past him?

are you implying Kaido stopped for a moment then started attacking again? or?
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#24
i can agree with the rest of your points, but this particular statement bothers me a bit

What do you mean by the nature of the downward swing and it's simply starting up again past him?

are you implying Kaido stopped for a moment then started attacking again? or?
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Just a side note. I don't think that's what happened but if the trajectory did stop like you say, it's because his momentum changed.

Going from a vertical swing (up-->down) to a horizontal swing (side-->side) wouldn't naturally flow in the same motion, it's a two motion action which breaks momentum at the first swing.
 
#26
I thought this too until i found some detail that the white spark passes through the right side of Law's body, it looks to me that the white spark didnt really hit Law. Moreover, extra white sparks emanating from Law's body are nowhere to be seen, different to zoro's where we can see clearly the extra white sparks emanating from zoro's body
The white lightning is Kaido. It he shouldn't have to pass through them. It is his Kanabo which does the hit
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If law took the attack fully, imo the trajectory of the attack should have been this way
No it shouldn't because the attack is the black lightning not the white lightning (which is Kaido)
 
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#27
Defenseless Zoro definitely took 100% of the Thunder Bagua because he got hit first. Law got hit after Zoro so at the very least he got the opportunity to brace for impact.

I just assumed the white lightning was to depict Kaido's movement and portray how fast he's moving, as opposed to him actually hitting them with lightning. That'd electrocute them but they have no burn marks, nor have any previous Thunder Baguas left anyone with burn marks. Compare to BM's lightning that left Killer cooked.
 

Cinera

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#28
This is really weird coming from me, but I think we're overanalysing the panel. Straightforward interpretations are more likely to be correct. It's not as if Oda expects us to pore over every pixel of the panel and then debate it for several hours in order to evaluate a feat.

The straightforward interpretation here is that Law and Zoro room a COC Thunder Bagua directly.


Defenseless Zoro definitely took 100% of the Thunder Bagua because he got hit first. Law got hit after Zoro so at the very least he got the opportunity to brace for impact.

I just assumed the white lightning was to depict Kaido's movement and portray how fast he's moving, as opposed to him actually hitting them with lightning. That'd electrocute them but they have no burn marks, nor have any previous Thunder Baguas left anyone with burn marks. Compare to BM's lightning that left Killer cooked.
Rooftop Zoro and Law tanked a much stronger version of an attack that KOed Post WCI Luffy.
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#29
In chapter 1010 we saw zoro getting hit by kaid

Analyzing the aftermath, we know for a fact that Zoro was lifted up to some degree, but didnt change in position horizontally

On the other hand, we saw law being send flying by the attack.

Though there is a similarity between the two that both zoro and Law most probably took the attack on their stomaches

To make it clearer, let's see the visual here



We can see that there are two kind of sparks, the white one and the black one

Seeing by how Oda made the difference in size between the two, it's most likely that the white one is the real attack, while the black one is the CoC haki blast

Now, notice that the white spark didnt go through Law, Law was only hurt by the black spark. While as you can see, zoro was hurt by both the white spark and the black spark

This tells us that zoro took the attack fully

As stated earlier, you might argue why was Law sent flying while zoro not?

By real life physics, zoro shouldve thrown away if he took fully. To answer this question, it's simply that the physics governing one piece world isnt exactly the same as our real life physics

Here is a comparison



We can see that luffy too wasnt sent flying despite taking the attack fully. Moreover, both too were fixed in position before taking the attack. Zoro was lying on the ground, while luffy was mid air and got blitzed

Another point is that, unlike zoro, law had initial velocity before receiving the impact, which could possibly explain why he got sent flying while zoro didnt
Oda literally reveals the usage of advanced CoC in this chapter where you don't need to have contact with the body to it them 'fully' so the answer is clearly yes.
 
#37
Just a side note. I don't think that's what happened but if the trajectory did stop like you say, it's because his momentum changed.

Going from a vertical swing (up-->down) to a horizontal swing (side-->side) wouldn't naturally flow in the same motion, it's a two motion action which breaks momentum at the first swing.
but if you're about to hit a base ball, you'd hit the ball downwards first then proceed to a horizontal swing, it all happens without break, the comparison you gave is improper imo. The example you gave shows that Kaido used different attacks, whereas zoro took only 1 type of attack
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The white lightning is Kaido. It he shouldn't have to pass through them. It is his Kanabo which does the hit
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No it shouldn't because the attack is the black lightning not the white lightning (which is Kaido)
That's how common sense work. But the thing is, Oda drew the white spark as if it passed through zoro, while on the other hand he drew Law's differently
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Stop being idiots. A thunder bagua sent a fresh Luffy out for days, but Law and Zoro just brush it off? He almost got Luffy with it a second time at the top of the roof.

This was a Haki blast, nothing else. The same as Hakai but a lighter version.
1. It was pre udon luffy
2. where does it say that zoro can't be better than luffy in at least 1 category?
3. Zoro was literally lying on the ground, you really think Kaido would have missed?

Talk about being idiot

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