General & Others Has anyone ever successfully challenged Big Mom (Cross Guild)

#1

Like the title asks has anyone ever managed to successfully challenge big mom? More specifically has anyone managed to do it on her own turf aka whole cake island?


We know some of the worst generation have tried with none able to make it far enough to even see big mom besides luffy. Capone too but he became a subordinate to do so


We also know Roger went to tottoland to steal her poneglyph but seeming never fought her. Just took what he wanted and dipped


As far as we know nobody from the mid gen has tried to challenge big mom. What makes it stick out even more is the fact we know the other emperor (pre getting the title) were. 2 of them being in cross guild and the last 90% likely to join
  • Mihawk and shanks
  • Crocodile and whitebeard
  • Moria and kaido
And again weirdly enough we don’t know of anyone at least from that generation that even tried to go for big mom.

So basically the question is
  1. Do you think we might meet anyone that tried to go for big mom back in the day?
    • All I know is if we do hopefully they join cross guild
 
#2
There is Luffy, who thanks to his plot power clowned BM in her own HQ (actually the greatest trouble for the BM pirates when Luffy invaded was not him but BM herself) even if he didn't fight her directly and of course Law and Kidd who beat her finally.

Another one who supposedly could have fought with her and won, or directly shown so much superiority that put a young BM under him without even a fight is of course Xebec.

Maybe she had some clash with WB back in the days like WB did with Roger. Or when Roger stole her poneglyph they actually fought. This explains why only WB was seen by the world on par with Roger and not BM or Kaido. Also when Shanks and BB stole the poneglyphs from Kidd and BB there was a sound beating in the process, could be the same for Roger and BM. But here I'm speculating.

She clashed with Kaido "on panel" at least once for 3 days in Onigashima.

But about mid gen and worst gen guys it seems there is nobody. I doubt somebody will get a "he fought with BM" label at this point. BM, dead or alive, has done her big role in the story, I think at best she will reappear in the final war as a secondary character. So she will just be thrown in that room were past villains are and 99/10p times they are left there to take dust, there would also be no hype to have now somebody to have that feat and also no reason to recall BM (probably some reference in Elbaf but I doubt she will get nore than that).

What I could see is, when the SH get to Elbaf, maybe some strong old giant tried to fight BM to avenge their elders but failed. Dory and Broggy would fit that bill just fine. Then the current king (was he called Loki?) most likely doesn't care since he was ready to sign an alliance with BM in exchange for marrying one of his daughters.

Another one who could have some relation with BM is of course Kuma since Bonney looks a lot like a young BM... But since he is a mindless cyborg who rarely talk we got nothing of it until now.

Most likely some father of the BM family strong enough tried to fight her but for sure it didn't end well. Pound was just too weak while Streusen, who fathers the strongest child/s is just her hidden YC.
 
#3
There is Luffy, who thanks to his plot power clowned BM in her own HQ (actually the greatest trouble for the BM pirates when Luffy invaded was not him but BM herself) even if he didn't fight her directly and of course Law and Kidd who beat her finally.

Another one who supposedly could have fought with her and won, or directly shown so much superiority that put a young BM under him without even a fight is of course Xebec.

Maybe she had some clash with WB back in the days like WB did with Roger. Or when Roger stole her poneglyph they actually fought. This explains why only WB was seen by the world on par with Roger and not BM or Kaido. Also when Shanks and BB stole the poneglyphs from Kidd and BB there was a sound beating in the process, could be the same for Roger and BM. But here I'm speculating.

She clashed with Kaido "on panel" at least once for 3 days in Onigashima.

But about mid gen and worst gen guys it seems there is nobody. I doubt somebody will get a "he fought with BM" label at this point. BM, dead or alive, has done her big role in the story, I think at best she will reappear in the final war as a secondary character. So she will just be thrown in that room were past villains are and 99/10p times they are left there to take dust, there would also be no hype to have now somebody to have that feat and also no reason to recall BM (probably some reference in Elbaf but I doubt she will get nore than that).

What I could see is, when the SH get to Elbaf, maybe some strong old giant tried to fight BM to avenge their elders but failed. Dory and Broggy would fit that bill just fine. Then the current king (was he called Loki?) most likely doesn't care since he was ready to sign an alliance with BM in exchange for marrying one of his daughters.

Another one who could have some relation with BM is of course Kuma since Bonney looks a lot like a young BM... But since he is a mindless cyborg who rarely talk we got nothing of it until now.

Most likely some father of the BM family strong enough tried to fight her but for sure it didn't end well. Pound was just too weak while Streusen, who fathers the strongest child/s is just her hidden YC.
I know he’s basically dead but kuma doing so back in the day is my favorite option

I just think it’d be cool if cross guild had a member to represent each of the original emperors
 
#13
The Warlord who spat at her face & Yonko title and openly said to her face that he will be a Future Crewmate of Pirate King Luffy.

The Warlord who then challenged her with the Sun Pirates and escaped without being hurt in the end.

"Without hurt"
That's why he was hurt bloodied when BM arrives at the sea?
That's why he himself and others were damaged for weeks after leaving WCI?

Also Jinbei was under her
He didn't go to Tottoland as enemy, he doesn't count
He was never Linlin rival
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I think Young Shanks went to challenge BM and couldn't get deep into the territory
Roger went to Tottoland and dipped after getting RP copy, didn't want a battle.

Shanks probably went to challenge Linlin and failed

Luffy went to save Sanji and dipped after fighting katakuri. Alliance couldn't kill nor beat Linlin
 
#14
I don't think Big Mom even really tried to hurt Jinbe by her self, she just threw Prometheus at him and he either dodged or got hit, then she was just like "Oh, okay, guess he can just run free cause I don't really give a shit"
However, she did overpower his Haki, send him flying, and make him bleed with Cognac.
He blocked it for like 4 seconds but that doesn't really matter, Zoro blocked Hakai for like 3 seconds and he still got ass blasted by it.
 
#15
Considering that she almost begged the giants for an alliance because she knows donut man and the rest bozokids are weak i wouldnt be surprised.

Semi-rookie Luffy embarassed her anyway.
 
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