So, I've been thinking about this badass moment from Chapter 269 here:
When Endeavor (presumably) defeats a High End Nomu with the help from other Pro Heroes. When looking at a scene like this, it's hard not to compare it to something like Endeavor Vs Hood, as that would be the direct comparison between the two.
Against Hood, Endeavor required the help of Hawks (and technically other pro heroes as well) alongside every last ounce of his own willpower and strength to overcome the Nomu, and still ended up seriously injured afterward. Here though...Endeavor defeats this Nomu without that much trouble, seemingly without really taking any injuries at all.
So, the question must be asked:
Has Endeavor really become so powerful that he is capable of defeating High End Nomus this convincingly?
At first I pretty much disregarded this feat because Endeavor received help from the other pro heroes including Ryukyu (who may very well be more powerful than Hawks in terms of just straight up combat ability, Hawks is more balanced in support and rescue), but Endeavor actually does start off fighting the High End 1v1:
As he was alone when it attacked him, so we can assume that he lasted against the thing in terms of 1v1 ability, at least partially.
My opinion:
Endeavor is more experienced now, sure, and I think his overall combat abilities are now higher because of that. The reason that Endeavor defeated this High End so much faster than he defeated the Hood, are for a few reasons and possibilities:
1. Endeavor actually starts off the fight against Hood semi-restraining himself. He believed that his initial Hellflame Punch would've been enough to defeat Hood, as that move is usually all it takes to defeat his opponents, by his own admission.
2. At the beginning of the Hood fight, Endeavor's goal was to capture Hood, not to kill him as he presumably did against this Nomu. Once Endeavor realized how strong Hood was, he changed his agenda into actually killing the thing rather than capturing it.
3. Endeavor arguably had more, and better help against this Nomu than he had against Hood
4. Hood may just be straight up stronger than this Nomu. Hood had a lot more quirks than this Nomu showed. Hood even had lesser Nomu inside of him that he could unleash upon the population lol. Hood also had regeneration which this High End seems to lack. Endeavor's issues were not that he couldn't disintegrate, severely wound, or even land hits on Hood, his issue was that Hood kept regenerating so Endeavor was forced to completely incinerate him. A simple Hellflame Punch to the head which presumably killed this High End would not defeat Hood.
5. I hinted at this above, but the main difference between Endeavor's fight against this Nomu and the fight against Hood, is his experience. Endeavor knows not to play around with these Nomu now, as he knows how strong they are capable of being. I doubt he went into this fight with any intent to try and capture this Nomu. He is probably in full on kill mode against these Nomu now and knows not to underestimate him.
So that's just my opinion lol.
But still, how strong has Endeavor actually become?
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When Endeavor (presumably) defeats a High End Nomu with the help from other Pro Heroes. When looking at a scene like this, it's hard not to compare it to something like Endeavor Vs Hood, as that would be the direct comparison between the two.
Against Hood, Endeavor required the help of Hawks (and technically other pro heroes as well) alongside every last ounce of his own willpower and strength to overcome the Nomu, and still ended up seriously injured afterward. Here though...Endeavor defeats this Nomu without that much trouble, seemingly without really taking any injuries at all.
So, the question must be asked:
Has Endeavor really become so powerful that he is capable of defeating High End Nomus this convincingly?
At first I pretty much disregarded this feat because Endeavor received help from the other pro heroes including Ryukyu (who may very well be more powerful than Hawks in terms of just straight up combat ability, Hawks is more balanced in support and rescue), but Endeavor actually does start off fighting the High End 1v1:
As he was alone when it attacked him, so we can assume that he lasted against the thing in terms of 1v1 ability, at least partially.
My opinion:
Endeavor is more experienced now, sure, and I think his overall combat abilities are now higher because of that. The reason that Endeavor defeated this High End so much faster than he defeated the Hood, are for a few reasons and possibilities:
1. Endeavor actually starts off the fight against Hood semi-restraining himself. He believed that his initial Hellflame Punch would've been enough to defeat Hood, as that move is usually all it takes to defeat his opponents, by his own admission.
2. At the beginning of the Hood fight, Endeavor's goal was to capture Hood, not to kill him as he presumably did against this Nomu. Once Endeavor realized how strong Hood was, he changed his agenda into actually killing the thing rather than capturing it.
3. Endeavor arguably had more, and better help against this Nomu than he had against Hood
4. Hood may just be straight up stronger than this Nomu. Hood had a lot more quirks than this Nomu showed. Hood even had lesser Nomu inside of him that he could unleash upon the population lol. Hood also had regeneration which this High End seems to lack. Endeavor's issues were not that he couldn't disintegrate, severely wound, or even land hits on Hood, his issue was that Hood kept regenerating so Endeavor was forced to completely incinerate him. A simple Hellflame Punch to the head which presumably killed this High End would not defeat Hood.
5. I hinted at this above, but the main difference between Endeavor's fight against this Nomu and the fight against Hood, is his experience. Endeavor knows not to play around with these Nomu now, as he knows how strong they are capable of being. I doubt he went into this fight with any intent to try and capture this Nomu. He is probably in full on kill mode against these Nomu now and knows not to underestimate him.
So that's just my opinion lol.
But still, how strong has Endeavor actually become?
@RayanOO @Ice devil slayer @TheAncientCenturion @NeutralWatcher @Zowo @playa4321 @Dark Admiral @Finalbeta etc