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Hisoka vs Uvogin


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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#22
And this was not even Chrollo at full potential./QUOTE]
lol this is when i know you do not understand the manga you are reading lmfao
Chrollo completely dismantled Hisoka. He laid out his entire strategy, predicted Hisoka’s every move, and walked away without a scratch.
dismantled & predicted every move.... lol

hisoka bodied chrollo in CQC, Chrollo who had a major power up after he went 2v1 in CQC against the Zoldycks and Hisoka outclassed him in that regard... zenox just even disproved your nonsense..
If a boxer trains for eight months and then wins with a single punch, you do not praise the opponent, you acknowledge the dominance. That was a low to mid diff fight at best.
& i dont recall chrollo ever coming close to oneshotting Hisoka... once again he needed to combine a minimum of 5 nen abilities in unison in order to beat Hisoka even then he had to swarm him with multiple bombs at once BOMBS thats what was needed to defeat Hisoka.

chrollo had praised hisoka the entirety of the fight & even prior:
  • not allowing any spider to move against hisoka
  • in continuously declining a 1on1 with hisoka
  • only agreeing to fight if it was in his favor/advantage
  • choosing the time and place (1 full year later)
  • the 1 year of prep was in order to gain and access the necessary nen abilities to defeat chrollo
  • specifically telling Hisoka hes never had to use so many abilities to kill a person
  • needing to tell hisoka his game plan with half truths to throw him off and question his motives with then Hisoka easily deduced and read Chrollos next move (the only adv Chrollo had after that point was removing Hisokas hand and taking away his safety net of bungee gum on the ceiling - it was an even footing fight up til then) this was due to how smart and calculating Hisoka is that if had no knowledge his counter strategy wouldve been different
  • specifically going out of his way to let Hisoka know the entire year of prep and buffs was only and directly tied to defeating Hisoka....
yet you lack any reading comprehension and understanding so i can see why you dont understand any if this... Hisoka was not simply outclassed in raw ability—he was outmaneuvered.
With access to stronger nen skills, he could easily defeat Hisoka again. Against a prepared Chrollo, Hisoka has zero chances.
yawn.

& there it is Chrollo w/ Prep lol so what happens if there is zero prep ?

stronger abilities dont mean much if he cant properly use them in a fight, its not "stronger" abilities its that the defeat underscores the HxH recurring theme that nen abilities are most dangerous when combined with precise conditions and forethought.

nen abilities seem to be a power structure you dont fully understand. Hisoka is already a character who outlines this with bungee gum, same with Kurapika
 
#24
@MUUGEN
You realize that what you keep arguing for has nothing to do with the outcome of the fight, right? Literally zero, zilch, nada.

Chrollo was in control the entire time, Hisoka himself was like a puppet who was doing everything he anticipated, walking into every trap, and essentially could do nothing about it. Chrollo walked away with zero significant damage while Hisoka fucking died. That was a mid-diff, not high or extreme lol.
 
#25
@MUUGEN
You realize that what you keep arguing for has nothing to do with the outcome of the fight, right? Literally zero, zilch, nada.

Chrollo was in control the entire time, Hisoka himself was like a puppet who was doing everything he anticipated, walking into every trap, and essentially could do nothing about it. Chrollo walked away with zero significant damage while Hisoka fucking died. That was a mid-diff, not high or extreme lol.
This is about Hisoka vs Uvo

Let me ask you. Where did you have Chrollo in relation to Uvo? Did you have Chrollo above Uvo in York New?

If so, the answer to Hisoka vs Uvo should be obvious.
 
#26
This is about Hisoka vs Uvo

Let me ask you. Where did you have Chrollo in relation to Uvo? Did you have Chrollo above Uvo in York New?

If so, the answer to Hisoka vs Uvo should be obvious.
I just called out his extreme-diff take.

Uvogin would’ve given Chrollo a real fight in Yorknew, maybe even beat him since Chrollo didn’t show anything particulary crazy back then. But Chrollo still wins off portrayal, he’s the boss for a reason. Machi even confidently said he was the strongest, with Hisoka included if I remember right.

Hisoka’s obsessed with Chrollo for a reason. His ego got shattered so badly he doesn’t even care about a fair fight anymore, he just wants revenge. Let’s see how it plays out. Honestly, Hisoka might get bodied by Chrollo again since I can only see Chrollo dying if Kurapika gets involved.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#27
& yes it was high diff fight cause chrollo needed a massive personal buff, the use of killing 200 plus random bystanders, running and hiding, using 5 abilities in unison, borrowing 3 from friends 2 from PT and 1 from elder of meteor, all pretty convenient plot buffs, PIS, it took 200 puppets in order to take down hisoka one person so it was a 201+ v 1 fight.....
he doesn’t even care about a fair fight anymore
lol yeah he never cared for a fair fight he gave the advantage to chrollo on his own terms... whats a fair fight to you?

his fair fight is pushing chrollo to come out of hiding and fighting him 1on1 no prep....

ffs you sound so illiterate with your takes.
Uvogin would’ve given Chrollo a real fight in Yorknew, maybe even beat him since Chrollo didn’t show anything particulary crazy back then. But Chrollo still wins off portrayal, he’s the boss for a reason. Machi even confidently said he was the strongest, with Hisoka included if I remember right.
what is a real fight?

lol nothing particularly crazy, chrollo 2v1 zoldycks while zoldycks were fighting with the intent to kill meanwhile chrollo was fighting with the intent to steal their abilities and didnt even use an offense ability while their only advantage was to sacrifice zeno in order to kill him lmfao

if you think uvo beats chrollo in york new then uvo should be able to handle the zoldycks in a 2v1 with ease correct?

doesnt Chrollo now need a new ability from the ship before encountering Hisoka again?

& hisoka was holding back/hiding his true power/prowess from the spiders cause he was using them.
 
#28
Wait, what am I looking at here? He got hit once that didn’t do much? It looks like he even blocked it.
he got 2-piece comboed , the first one was a direct blow btw
So much for “ scratch-less “

That just depends on Chrollo’s available abilities at the time. Just because Chrollo prepared for a complete victory doesn’t mean he can’t beat Hisoka going in blind.
He needed 1 year to guarantee a win over hisoka , thats insane .
U dont need a 1 year prep time for someone u can beat in a blind fight .

Uvogin would’ve given Chrollo a real fight in Yorknew, maybe even beat him since Chrollo didn’t show anything particulary crazy back then. But Chrollo still
Uvogin aint beating chrollo at all ,
Hisoka would be going for uvo if chrollo was weaker ,
Chrollo didnt show anything crazy ?
U think fighting zoldycs 1v2 isnt crazy ?

what did uvogin show ? Beating fodder beasts?


chrollo was so strong that the zoldycs needed to sacrifice zeno to beat him ,


and this is a chrollo who still wanted to steal zeno’s ability so he wasnt going for the kill.

Chrollo is far above uvogin’s level .
Hisoka’s obsessed with Chrollo for a reason. His ego got shattered so badly he doesn’t even care about a fair fight anymore, he just wants revenge. Let’s see how it plays out. Honestly, Hisoka might get bodied by Chrollo again since I can only see Chrollo dying if Kurapika gets involved.
Hisoka and chrollo are made for each other ,
They are gonna die fighting each other .
Chrollo now needs a national level ability to kill hisoka for good but his emotions are clashing with each other and he aint got a 1 year prep time anymore .

hisoka is actually such a bad matchup for uvogin ,
Uvogin packs a strong punch but he isnt a speedster


he needed a smoke screen to tag kurapika for good ( kurapika countered either way )

And hisoka can move at extreme speed cuz of his bungee gum



he can also cover uvo’s hands with bungee gum and make them useless ( uvo’s dumbass wouldnt use gyo )

uvo gets clowned on pretty hard by either of em
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#29
Hisoka would win because his Bungee Gum will allow him to partially absorb otherwise lethal brute force enhancement attacks and he can trick his opponent into believing that he's less damaged than he is via Texture Surprise while attacking Uvo off guard with lethal attacks using missing limbs or after creating clones Uvo doesn't see coming, plus he is pretty decent at enhancement and is quite fast and agile too.

Hisoka works with psychology and magic tricks, he's quite the hybrid fighter.
 
#30
Spending Aura on something else absolutely weakens you lol. That's one of the most basic logic of nen.

You counting Hisoka getting hits from Razor in a game with rules as an anti feat, while not counting that some weak shadow beasts hurt Uvo is hilarious lol.

Razor is someone Gin acknowledged as strong.

Uvo's boss Chrollo who is a specialist and can hold his own against 2 Zoldycks, needed to make a year's worth of preparations to beat Hisoka.

Hisoka just isn't a good match for a muscle head like Uvo. Uvo gets decapitated.
This thread made me realize how underrated Hisoka AP is.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#31
This thread made me realize how underrated Hisoka AP is.
there is no one below Chrollo that is touching hisoka tbh maybe killua with speed and possibly current kurapika


but really hope in manga we get kurapika v chrollo - but hmm would we see Chrollo kill kill Hisoka and a true 1on1 and then kurapika takes out all spiders after that
 
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