Powers & Abilities How do the straw hats haki compare

[Albino 👑]

With luffy getting masive gains recently in coo and now coa hes obviously the strongest haki user in the crew

Tho my question is how does the other strawhats haki compare to his before these recent gains
During the timeskip luffys main training was mainly dedicated to getting better at haki. With coc not really being as trainable meaning he was mainly enhancing the other 2. When it comes to feats luffy far and away has the most with all the battles hes been in.

So far the only haki users in the crew are zoro and sanji with both coo and coa + usopp with only coo
Oh also jinbei who is the only one that debatably has the most comparable haki

Imo even at dressrosa
Coa: luffy > zoro >~< jinbei > sanji
Coo: luffy > sanji >~< jinbei > zoro > usopp
Coc: luffy = luffy


If yall think sanji has better coa than jinbei or something like usopp has better coo than zoro
Explain why and in what situations would their haki be better

 

[HA001]

With luffy getting masive gains recently in coo and now coa hes obviously the strongest haki user in the crew

Tho my question is how does the other strawhats haki compare to his before these recent gains
During the timeskip luffys main training was mainly dedicated to getting better at haki. With coc not really being as trainable meaning he was mainly enhancing the other 2. When it comes to feats luffy far and away has the most with all the battles hes been in.

So far the only haki users in the crew are zoro and sanji with both coo and coa + usopp with only coo
Oh also jinbei who is the only one that debatably has the most comparable haki

Imo even at dressrosa
Coa: luffy > zoro >~< jinbei > sanji
Coo: luffy > sanji >~< jinbei > zoro > usopp
Coc: luffy = luffy


If yall think sanji has better coa than jinbei or something like usopp has better coo than zoro
Explain why and in what situations would their haki be better

Luffy had his haki broken by bellamy and hody. His coa wasnt better than zoros at all.

 

[Chrono]

I agree but Zoro and Sanji top Jinbe in their specialty haki type.

 

[Albino 👑]

Luffy had his haki broken by bellamy and hody. His coa wasnt better than zoros at all.

Weak character doesn't mean they cant have strong attacks...
And zoro hasn't shown anything thatd prove his haki would be just as good in that situation let alone better

I agree but Zoro and Sanji top Jinbe in their specialty haki type.

Yeah jinbei probably fuses some secret Fishman shit with his haki tho tbh i don't totally understand it lol

 

[Sakura no Hiluluk]

Imo even at dressrosa
Coa: luffy > zoro >~< jinbei > sanji
Coo: luffy > sanji >~< jinbei > zoro > usopp
Coc: luffy = luffy

Honestly, the only change I would make would be to put Usopp over Zoro in term of COO if only because he seems to use the same version as Fujitora, and is thus able to see the aura of others, when, as far as I know, Zoro only hinted at hearing "voices" during Punk Hazard.

But of course, in actual battle, I suspect that Zoro's COO would be better suited, if only because he knows what it is, while nothing has hinted at Usopp even talking about it with the crew or working on it. I suspect that a more definitive appraisal of everyone's mastery of Haki will happen when the Battle of Onigashima will start, however.

 

[HA001]

Weak character doesn't mean they cant have strong attacks...
And zoro hasn't shown anything thatd prove his haki would be just as good in that situation let alone better

Yeah jinbei probably fuses some secret Fishman shit with his haki tho tbh i don't totally understand it lol

Zoro beat a full body user unless you think picas haki < bellamys lmao

 

[Chrono]

Weak character doesn't mean they cant have strong attacks...
And zoro hasn't shown anything thatd prove his haki would be just as good in that situation let alone better

Yeah jinbei probably fuses some secret Fishman shit with his haki tho tbh i don't totally understand it lol

That has nothing to do with his haki thats his technique. Like Block Mochi and Luffy's Koka. His actually haki is below Zoro's I believe.

 

[Albino 👑]

Honestly, the only change I would make would be to put Usopp over Zoro in term of COO if only because he seems to use the same version as Gujitora, and is thus able to see the aura of others, when, as far as I know, Zoro only hinted at hearing "voices" during Punk Hazard.

But of course, in actual battle, I suspect that Zoro's COO would be better suited, if only because he knows what it is, while nothing has hinted at Usopp even talking about it with the crew or working on it. I suspect that a more definitive appraisal of everyone's mastery of Haki will happen when the Battle of Onigashima will start, however.

I mostly agree but i wouldn't put usopps haki over his

Its more so like a different branch of coo than actually being better imo

 

[Sakura no Hiluluk]

I mostly agree but i wouldn't put usopps haki over his

Its more so like a different branch of coo than actually being better imo

That's fair. Honestly, CoO is kind of the strangest Haki to me, when it comes to its manifestations, and its evolutions.

 

[Albino 👑]

Zoro beat a full body user unless you think picas haki < bellamys lmao

Im not sayin Bellamy has stronger haki than pica and he obviously doesn't have better haki than luffy

His attack power + haki was able to hurt luffy not just his haki
Just like luffy can hurt kata with g4 not because his haki improves but his attack power

Also luffy has fought way stronger coa than pica and vergo even tho they both use full body coa

 

[Chrono]

@Albino 👑

I also think Sanji's black flames. When he achieves it will be a technique for CoA.

 

[HA001]

Im not sayin Bellamy has stronger haki than pica and he obviously doesn't have better haki than luffy

His attack power + haki was able to hurt luffy not just his haki
Just like luffy can hurt kata with g4 not because his haki improves but his attack power

Also luffy has fought way stronger coa than pica and vergo even tho they both use full body coa

Yeah and the people hes beat hasnt been because of superior coa its been because of his actual power. He admitted himself his coa wasnt good enough.

 

[Albino 👑]

@Albino 👑

I also think Sanji's black flames. When he achieves it will be a technique for CoA.

Hopefully he does cause that shit would be badass lol

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Yeah and the people hes beat hasnt been because of superior coa its been because of his actual power. He admitted himself his coa wasnt good enough.

He was able to break through and hurt even doffy with his haki up

Also point is non of that puts any of the strawhats coa above his

 

[Chrono]

Hopefully he does cause that shit would be badass lol

With thw whole flow of haki introduction the possibility is now opening up.

 

[Albino 👑]

And legit was has zoro shown to prove his haki is better than luffy's

What proves his invisible haki would be able to withstand hodys bite
Or not get hurt by Bellamy
Or on par than doffys
Or stronger than crackers
Or could hadle kata's coa better than luffy

Legit nothing

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Currently
CoA Luffy>Jinbei>Zoro>sanji
CoO Luffy>Sanji>Jinbei>Ussop~Zoro
CoC Luffy>Ussop

 

[ardym]

to be honest i think Luffy is still the best in every color in the crew.

 

[Geo]

And legit was has zoro shown to prove his haki is better than luffy's

What proves his invisible haki would be able to withstand hodys bite
Or not get hurt by Bellamy
Or on par than doffys
Or stronger than crackers
Or could hadle kata's coa better than luffy

Legit nothing

His haki withstood the force it takes to cut a mountain sized golem in half. That alone is an impressive feat

 

[Finalbeta]

Luffy > Zoro >> Sanji >>> Usopp

 

[PuckTheGreat]

CoA Mastery:
If Rayleigh is a (10 - Excellent) then
Zoro (8 - Very Strong) > Luffy (6 - Strong) > Sanji (4 - Fair)

CoO Mastery:
If Katakuri is a (10 - Excellent) then
CoO: Sanji (8 - Very Strong) > Luffy (6 - Strong) > Zoro (4 - Fair)

As to the reasoning for the above rankings:
1. Both Sanji & Zoro specialize in CoO & CoA respectively which indirectly implies that said type of Haki is their strongest & what they spent the most time honing over the TS. Whereas Luffy doesn’t specialize in either of the aforementioned two given his speciality is CoC and can’t train CoC, so he most likely trained both his CoO & CoA to the same level over the TS.

2.1) Concept of Flow - Zoro can most likely already apply CoA in this way. Hyou’s definition of Ryou indicates this & his current bout with Kawamatsu also indicates this. Luffy is just learning it & Sanji hasn’t shown to be capable of this.

2.2) Ability to sense attacks subconsciously/unconsciously - Sanji is already capable of doing this. He demonstrated this when he dodged Katakuri’s Jelly Bean. Luffy just recently learnt this during his death match with Katakuri on WC. Zoro hasn’t been explicitly shown to be capable of this.