Speculations How strong would these crews be without their captain?

Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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We have seen how much the loss of Whitebeard meant to WB-pirates.

But you also have examples like the Sun Pirates that coped very well with the loss of Fisher Tiger. Jinbei stepped up and soon surpassed his old captains bounty.

So what would become of these crews if they lost their captain? Doom? Weaker but still strong in a less dangerous area? Stronger after a while?

Firetank pirates without Capone


Heart pirates without Law


Kidd pirates without Kidd


Strawhats without Luffy


Doflamingos crew without Doffy
 
thedarkdragon11

thedarkdragon11

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All won't survive NW without losing men on dangerous territories... Against Yonko, they'll be wiped out...

They'll do well on some areas in the NW, especially the weaker territories like the ones invaded by Brownbeard, Bartolomeo and Cavendish (except those Yonko territories)...

Firetank Pirates, they'll gonna have leadership problems here... Chiffon doesn't have the leadership charisma, nor Gotti and Vito...
Heart Pirates, Bepo will take charge... But he's quite naive at times...
Kid Pirates, Killer will take charge... But his will is so connected to Kid that he easily lost one when Kid was imprisoned...
Straw Hat Pirates, Nami will take charge... But they'll look cowardly since Nami doesn't want risky areas...
Doflamingo Pirates, they'll gonna have leadership problems here... Trebol may take charge but their motivation and influence are also connected to Doffy's...
 
m0nst3Rx

m0nst3Rx

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In new world No one able to push zoro past mid diff except yonkos kaido and bigmom, Every Villian who face to luffy will be dead by now if zoro fought with them, also luffy didnt do a shit against yonko even at the rooftop, luffy just a burden for zoro

Zoro lol diffing every person he mets meaning he can mid diff 1st strongest

Zoro and luffy were equal prets, Post timeskip zoro came out stronger than luffy

If we replace act 1 zoro vs drunken kaido, instead luffy, He will kill drunken kaido with Blackblade shisui, Oda made zoro lost again in that time for just that

Zoro > Luffy as always

Only problem was prets Enel though because Rubber boy got the plot armour but not anymore lighting cant effect zoro
 
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Doggo

Doggo

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Cozy Sofa said:
We have seen how much the loss of Whitebeard meant to WB-pirates.

But you also have examples like the Sun Pirates that coped very well with the loss of Fisher Tiger. Jinbei stepped up and soon surpassed his old captains bounty.

So what would become of these crews if they lost their captain? Doom? Weaker but still strong in a less dangerous area? Stronger after a while?

Firetank pirates without Capone


Heart pirates without Law


Kidd pirates without Kidd


Strawhats without Luffy


Doflamingos crew without Doffy
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- Irrevelant.
- Irrelevant.
- Ok-ish.
- Decent.
- Actually Decent as well.
 
S

Steve Madden

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Nami isn't leading them. There's a difference between being the captain and leading the crew to whatever it is Nami does.

Like you said Nami takes care of the captain stuff but isn't the captain, and Luffys not just the captain for name sake. He takes charge when he needs to. Zoro would take charge because his captains gone. Besides the person with the best qualifications to lead the crew would be jinbe, let alone Nami, but even he'd take commands from Zoro.

Can not believe some of you think Nami would be the new captain of the straw hats. :suresure:
 
Finalbeta

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Strawhats would suffer the less powerful blow as they have Zoro to carry them, soon Yamato. Sanji can also become more powerful.

Heart Pirates would get shattered lol.
 
Iam25

Iam25

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Lol people forget how weak the average new world pirate is.

Remember we saw peachbeard, brownbeard, and scotch doing shit in the NW.

Hell tons of fodder crews that clearly can't handle pacifistas.

Remember Whitebeard had dozens of captains in marineford yet they barely destroyed any pacifistas.
 
traxex123

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m0nst3Rx said:
No one able to push zoro past mid diff except kaido and bigmom, Every Villian who face to luffy will be dead by now if zoro fought with them

Zoro lol diffing every person he mets meaning he can mid diff 1st strongest

Zoro and luffy were equal prets, Post timeskip zoro came out stromger than luffy

If we replace act 1 luffy vs kaido, instead Zoro, He will kill kaido with Blackblade shisui, Oda made zoro lost again for just that

Zoro > Luffy
They Could find onepiece so soon

Only problem was prets Enel though because Rubber boy got the plot armour but not anymore ligjting cant effect zoro
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hahaha
 
stairs-kun

stairs-kun

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Cozy Sofa said:
We have seen how much the loss of Whitebeard meant to WB-pirates.

But you also have examples like the Sun Pirates that coped very well with the loss of Fisher Tiger. Jinbei stepped up and soon surpassed his old captains bounty.

So what would become of these crews if they lost their captain? Doom? Weaker but still strong in a less dangerous area? Stronger after a while?

Firetank pirates without Capone


Heart pirates without Law


Kidd pirates without Kidd


Strawhats without Luffy


Doflamingos crew without Doffy
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Firetank 40% meaning Capone is like 60% of their strength


Heart pirates 20%-30% meaning Law is like 70-80%of their strength. Fluctuation is because of Bepo's potential Sulong.


Kidd Pirates without Kid would be 60-75%. Kid and Killer hold the most strength. Killer's strength percentage would be equal or comparable to Kid's.
Strawhats?:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:

Zoro carries Luffy now! If you drop Luffy, their strength would jump. But honestly, Strawhats without Luffy would be like 85% meaning Luffy is 15% of their strength.

Zoro is like 65-70% of the Strawhats collective strength(including Luffy). Zoro hard carries, and no one can disagree.

The rest collectively would be 15% or so.


Doffy's crew without Doffy would be like 68-77. Depending on whether Vergo is there or not.
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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Firetank pirates without Capone

Vito as Captain and Gotti as vice captain would make for quite a strong Grandline crew. Or they could just return and rule the West Blue. Probably would become leading brokers of the Grandline underworld.

Heart pirates without Law

The best they could do is probably become a strong crew in a modestly strong place like the Franky family in Water7 or New Fishman pirates in FI. Camp out and target incoming prey.

Kidd pirates without Kidd

Could probably keep their status as new world underground brokers. Killer has the strength and smarts. Could replicate Doflamingos crew in time taking over a new World country and be a yonko Ally.

Strawhats without Luffy

The key is Jinbei. His experience along with the maturity and wisdom of Robin, Franky and Brook could help Zoro become a yonko or at least an inbetweener in due time. But they would never reach pirate King level and it would take a lot longer to reach yonko level due to Zoro being a lot more cautious than Luffy and for him to build enough strength.

Doflamingos crew without Doffy

Probably could have ruled Dressrosa even without Doffy. Trebol and Diamante could have kept Dressrosa under wraps while Vergo steared away dangers through the G5. Dellinger as Captain in 10-15 years time.
 
Shinsekai

Shinsekai

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m0nst3Rx said:
In new world No one able to push zoro past mid diff except yonkos kaido and bigmom, Every Villian who face to luffy will be dead by now if zoro fought with them, also luffy didnt do a shit against yonko even at the rooftop, luffy just a burden for zoro

Zoro lol diffing every person he mets meaning he can mid diff 1st strongest

Zoro and luffy were equal prets, Post timeskip zoro came out stronger than luffy

If we replace act 1 zoro vs drunken kaido, instead luffy, He will kill drunken kaido with Blackblade shisui, Oda made zoro lost again in that time for just that

Zoro > Luffy as always

Only problem was prets Enel though because Rubber boy got the plot armour but not anymore lighting cant effect zoro
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Can't understand you because Zoro's cock is clearly stuck into your mouth
 
Sanji Skywalker

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thedarkdragon11 said:
All won't survive NW without losing men on dangerous territories... Against Yonko, they'll be wiped out...

They'll do well on some areas in the NW, especially the weaker territories like the ones invaded by Brownbeard, Bartolomeo and Cavendish (except those Yonko territories)...

Firetank Pirates, they'll gonna have leadership problems here... Chiffon doesn't have the leadership charisma, nor Gotti and Vito...
Heart Pirates, Bepo will take charge... But he's quite naive at times...
Kid Pirates, Killer will take charge... But his will is so connected to Kid that he easily lost one when Kid was imprisoned...
Straw Hat Pirates, Nami will take charge... But they'll look cowardly since Nami doesn't want risky areas...
Doflamingo Pirates, they'll gonna have leadership problems here... Trebol may take charge but their motivation and influence are also connected to Doffy's...
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Nami ain’t taking charge of shit lmao you must be smoking something good
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Omg this is embarrassing lmaoooo

So many Nami simps projecting about Nami taking charge over them.

Whenever things pop off and Luffy isn’t there, it’s ALWAYS Sanji and Zoro who take the lead lmao. Nami giving directions and bossing people around as a gag while peacefully sailing is not her taking charge.

You really would have to be stupid to think that a weak coward like Nami is leading anything seriously. Zoro, Jimbei and Franky wouldn’t even allow it. Sanji only would because he’s Sanji. But Nami’s smart enough to know she can’t be captain, she’s too weak. No captain can be weaker than their crew
 
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Screws Loose242

Screws Loose242

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Only straw hats & kidds pirates will survive because straw hats are already crazy strong & every opponent luffy face zoro would because he would be the captain likewise sanji becoming vice captain taking on zoros opponent , I would love this :finally: & Kidd pirates do have killer who's stronger so I think they'll make it there crew seem to be able to handle themselves all others are trash it's even sad law doesn't have a right hand
 
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