Questions & Mysteries If Crocodile gets a legit 1.9 billion, is he above 1.1 b Zolo and some YC1s?

If the bounties are legit, is Crocodile above average YC1s like Katakuri and Alber?


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You can ignore the formation of Cross Guild all you want, and pretend it has nothing to do with Mihawks bounty,but the manga has already told us that strength is not the only determining factor when it comes to giving bounties.

You are giving Mihawk a special rule., by explicitly ignoring what the manga has told us about bounties.

And I brought up Zoro to show you how stupidly flawed your argument is. He's only worth a billion, while his goal is worth 3+ billion.

Zoros bounty is contributed to his strength plus the fact that he's part of a Yonko crew. According to your logic, the current gap between Mihawk and Zoro would be Worlds apart, cause not only is Zoro worth massively less than Mihawk, but his bounty isn't 100 percent strength related, so that means he's actually MUCH weaker still. Not only does he need to catch up to Mihawks 3+ billion, he actually needs to far exceed it, for it to balance out.

But you guys claim Zoro is already at a top tier level, which clearly contadicts your assessment of Mihawks bounty. You can't have it both ways.
Crocodile being above 1 billion just means he aint weak as many thought. How strong is he? Well, we dont know, but his MF feats and even Alabasta puts him at Yc3 tier at least. Then he had a 2 year time skip where he should had gotten stronger just as Lucci did. But unlike Lucci which has great potential, Oda said that Crocodile started to gain as much as fame as Luffy before he camed a Warlord, so Crocodile also has great potential indeed, he just didnt develop it since he lost his ambitions.

As for Zoro, well, he didnt get any credit for helping in the roof top. His bounty is lower than what he deserves.
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The second Doffy realized he may have to fight Kaido, he began to panic. He even told Law that he doesn’t think he’d be strong enough to fight off Kaido.

He was truly scared of Kaido.
Panic? Mmmm why will he? Didnt Kaido sent Jack to rescue Doffy? Didnt Kaido said he wanted Doffy as ally for the final war? Didnt Oda said that Doffy was meant to help Kaido?

No matter how you look at it, he had things that suggested that Kaido wont really attack him. Of course the idea of fighting a beast like Kaido gets you scared but it aint like Doffy fears him.
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Also let’s not forget, Buggy’s bounty should be crocodiles since Croc was the true head and leader of cross guild.
Not really, nothing says Buggy has that bounty for being the boss.
 
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This is already explained ZKK boy. In the exact same page they talk about Marine Hunting at the beginning, which you can't read that unfortunately.

If we just look at the middle panels for the reasons of their bounty and not anything else, then Crocodile gets no extra bounty for Marine Hunting and gets no extra bounty for being a subordinate of a Yonko, which Oda himself directly said in SBS being a subordinate to a Yonko captain boosts the underling bounties. Not the other way around.

According to you, Crocodile gets no extra for Marine Hunting, gets no extra bounty for joining Cross Guild. Because all they said logia, intelligence and leadership.

Is Mihawk not intelligent so he is dumb? Or that Crocodile is such a big genius that we didn't know so far.

To say that Croco gets extra for being intelligent but Mihawk does not means that, so Mihawk is dumb.

Then again, if Crocodile gets extra only for being intelligent and for leadership abilities, why Buggy doesn't get bigger bounty than Mihawk? Why its bigger than Crocodile's bounty only? And not only that, Buggy's bounty is bigger than another Yonko with 3 billion, and BB's first Yonko bounty 2.2 biliion.

Buggy either has BIGGER power, Intelligence and Leadership abilities than Crocodile according to the Marines, which is why they say Buggy has the power to control both Mihawk + Crocodile, or Buggy controls Mihawk + Crocodile with only sheer power, and so he gets 3.1 billion? But not bigger than Mihawk's 3.5 billion?

Buggy literally can control Mihawk's 3.5 billion power, + Crocodile's 1.9 billion power (which Mihawk can't control Crocodile) but somehow gets lower than Mihawk's 3.5 billion despite controlling that 3.5 billion power? :suresure:

So which one ZKKwanker? How come Buggy doesn't get extra over Mihawk, doesn't get extra over Shanks, when they specifically say Buggy is superior than 3.5 b Mihawk + 1.9 b Crocodile combined?

Its obvious that both Crocodile and Mihawk got extra for joining Cross Guild, for being underling to Yonko, and for Marine Hunting. Its that simple.

Your argument is invalid because you completely ignore Crocodile's Marine Hunting and Cross Guild boosts, and completely ignoring how come the guy they said stronger than Mihawk, gets lower bounty than Mihawk.

Its obvious Mihawk's bounty gets boosted for being subordinate to a Yonko, same as Crocodile's, as well as for Marine Hunting which he mentioned at the beginning of that page you posted.
 
Crocodile being above 1 billion just means he aint weak as many thought. How strong is he? Well, we dont know, but his MF feats and even Alabasta puts him at Yc3 tier at least. Then he had a 2 year time skip where he should had gotten stronger just as Lucci did. But unlike Lucci which has great potential, Oda said that Crocodile started to gain as much as fame as Luffy before he camed a Warlord, so Crocodile also has great potential indeed, he just didnt develop it since he lost his ambitions.

As for Zoro, well, he didnt get any credit for helping in the roof top. His bounty is lower than what he deserves.
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Panic? Mmmm why will he? Didnt Kaido sent Jack to rescue Doffy? Didnt Kaido said he wanted Doffy as ally for the final war? Didnt Oda said that Doffy was meant to help Kaido?

No matter how you look at it, he had things that suggested that Kaido wont really attack him. Of course the idea of fighting a beast like Kaido gets you scared but it aint like Doffy fears him.
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Not really, nothing says Buggy has that bounty for being the boss.
The manga says that buggy’s bounty is literally because the world thinks he’s the boss…
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
This is already explained ZKK boy. In the exact same page they talk about Marine Hunting at the beginning, which you can't read that unfortunately.

If we just look at the middle panels for the reasons of their bounty and not anything else, then Crocodile gets no extra bounty for Marine Hunting and gets no extra bounty for being a subordinate of a Yonko, which Oda himself directly said in SBS being a subordinate to a Yonko captain boosts the underling bounties. Not the other way around.

According to you, Crocodile gets no extra for Marine Hunting, gets no extra bounty for joining Cross Guild. Because all they said logia, intelligence and leadership.

Is Mihawk not intelligent so he is dumb? Or that Crocodile is such a big genius that we didn't know so far.

To say that Croco gets extra for being intelligent but Mihawk does not means that, so Mihawk is dumb.

Then again, if Crocodile gets extra only for being intelligent and for leadership abilities, why Buggy doesn't get bigger bounty than Mihawk? Why its bigger than Crocodile's bounty only? And not only that, Buggy's bounty is bigger than another Yonko with 3 billion, and BB's first Yonko bounty 2.2 biliion.

Buggy either has BIGGER power, Intelligence and Leadership abilities than Crocodile according to the Marines, which is why they say Buggy has the power to control both Mihawk + Crocodile, or Buggy controls Mihawk + Crocodile with only sheer power, and so he gets 3.1 billion? But not bigger than Mihawk's 3.5 billion?

Buggy literally can control Mihawk's 3.5 billion power, + Crocodile's 1.9 billion power (which Mihawk can't control Crocodile) but somehow gets lower than Mihawk's 3.5 billion despite controlling that 3.5 billion power? :suresure:

So which one ZKKwanker? How come Buggy doesn't get extra over Mihawk, doesn't get extra over Shanks, when they specifically say Buggy is superior than 3.5 b Mihawk + 1.9 b Crocodile combined?

Its obvious that both Crocodile and Mihawk got extra for joining Cross Guild, for being underling to Yonko, and for Marine Hunting. Its that simple.

Your argument is invalid because you completely ignore Crocodile's Marine Hunting and Cross Guild boosts, and completely ignoring how come the guy they said stronger than Mihawk, gets lower bounty than Mihawk.

Its obvious Mihawk's bounty gets boosted for being subordinate to a Yonko, same as Crocodile's, as well as for Marine Hunting which he mentioned at the beginning of that page you posted.
Lmfao lerkan
That page kills you

Buggy has the power to use them 2
Power isn't just strength clown
For example the president of USA is one of the most powerful people in the world and he a frail ass old man.

They say exactly what the bounties are given for

Anything you try to add is a lie
 
Lmfao lerkan
That page kills you

Buggy has the power to use them 2
Power isn't just strength clown
For example the president of USA is one of the most powerful people in the world and he a frail ass old man.

They say exactly what the bounties are given for

Anything you try to add is a lie
You didn't answer anything, I am here trying to be polite.

Is Mihawk dumb based on they are saying Crocodile is intelligent but Mihawk isn't? LOL.

How that page could do anything to me when I just mentioned that page to you? :suresure:

You buried yourself with your own argument.

You claim they only mentioned the bounty reasons in the middle and last panels of ''that page'' :

Why there isn't any ''leadership'' and ''intelligence'' factor for Buggy? They mentioned Marine Hunting factors before, so the previous panels counts for only Buggy or not?

If it counts for Buggy, why not doesn't count for Crocodile and Mihawk's Marine Hunting and joining Cross Guild? Its that simple.

Why they say ''power to command'', ''Mihawk and Croco yield to his authority'' for Buggy instead of saying ''leadership ability'' just like they said for Crocodile?

They never said anything for Buggy's ''leadership ability'' or ''intelligence'', so according to your logic since they didn't, it doesn't count and that only makes Crocodile the leadership of Cross Guild, Buggy too should be the ''only power'' just like Mihawk is.

Buggy gets 3.1 billion for only power over Mihawk. According to you since they didn't talk about Buggy having leadership or intelligence like Crocodile.

Why Shanks is far above 3.1 billion and above 3.5 billion? They didn't say Shanks has intelligence and leadership? They are both Yonko but Shanks can't even command Mihawk by power, while Buggy can. How does that work?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You didn't answer anything, I am here trying to be polite.

Is Mihawk dumb based on they are saying Crocodile is intelligent but Mihawk isn't? LOL.

How that page could do anything to me when I just mentioned that page to you? :suresure:

You buried yourself with your own argument.

You claim they only mentioned the bounty reasons in the middle and last panels of ''that page'' :

Why there isn't any ''leadership'' and ''intelligence'' factor for Buggy? They mentioned Marine Hunting factors before, so the previous panels counts for only Buggy or not?

If it counts for Buggy, why not doesn't count for Crocodile and Mihawk's Marine Hunting and joining Cross Guild? Its that simple.

Why they say ''power to command'', ''Mihawk and Croco yield to his authority'' for Buggy instead of saying ''leadership ability'' just like they said for Crocodile?

They never said anything for Buggy's ''leadership ability'' or ''intelligence'', so according to your logic since they didn't, it doesn't count and that only makes Crocodile the leadership of Cross Guild, Buggy too should be the ''only power'' just like Mihawk is.

Buggy gets 3.1 billion for only power over Mihawk. According to you since they didn't talk about Buggy having leadership or intelligence like Crocodile.

Why Shanks is far above 3.1 billion and above 3.5 billion? They didn't say he has intelligence and leadership? They are both Yonko but Shanks can't even command Mihawk by power, while Buggy can. How does that work?
Lmfao what the fuck are you on about.

What does the word based on mean lerkan ?
Explain what based on means ?

No it means Crocs intelligence and leadership is a THREAT to them
As a warlord he already showed them both and almost destroyed a country and got an ancient weapon


Mihawks strength is a THREAT to them

We got told on Shanks in his bounty reveal

It's his crew.


Why would they

The things they list on Buggy are what makes him a threat to them

Power =/= strength

Biden is more powerful than most people in the world yet is a frail old man weak as piss.


Destroyed as usual. Tag a mod to cry again
 
Lmfao what the fuck are you on about.

What does the word based on mean lerkan ?
Explain what based on means ?

No it means Crocs intelligence and leadership is a THREAT to them
As a warlord he already showed them both and almost destroyed a country and got an ancient weapon


Mihawks strength is a THREAT to them

We got told on Shanks in his bounty reveal

It's his crew.


Why would they

The things they list on Buggy are what makes him a threat to them

Power =/= strength

Biden is more powerful than most people in the world yet is a frail old man weak as piss.


Destroyed as usual. Tag a mod to cry again
As usual you destroy yourself by using dumb arguments. :suresure:



Are you going to say this doesn't apply to Shanks's crew?

Shanks boosts their bounty, they don't boosts Shanks's bounty.

Shanks is Yonko because of his crew yes, which he boosts their bounty.

Shanks is leader over them due to POWER, I don't see your ''leadership'' and ''intelligence'' thing here.

Shanks's Yonko status has nothing to do with his bounty. Being Yonko doesn't boost bounty because of how Law can get equal bounty to Luffy. Learn this first.

Your excuse for Crocodile is not valid because you don't accept Buggy having power over Mihawk only because of his strength that get him 3.1 billion, because they never say anything about ''leadership and ''intelligence'' for Buggy, its that simple. Your US President example doesn't suit here due to them saying Crocodile has leadership and intelligence but they don't say the same for Buggy.

I never need a mod to destroy you in argument, its too easy ZKKboy, I just reveal your insecurities when you lose a debate and resort to insults instead, you resort to insults means you lose due to desperation and I win.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
As usual you destroy yourself by using dumb arguments. :suresure:



Are you going to say this doesn't apply to Shanks's crew?

Shanks boosts their bounty, they don't boosts Shanks's bounty.

Shanks is Yonko because of his crew yes, which he boosts their bounty.

Shanks is leader over them due to POWER, I don't see your ''leadership'' and ''intelligence'' thing here.

Shanks's Yonko status has nothing to do with his bounty. Being Yonko doesn't boost bounty because of how Law can get equal bounty to Luffy. Learn this first.

Your excuse for Crocodile is not valid because you don't accept Buggy having power over Mihawk only because of his strength that get him 3.1 billion, because they never say anything about ''leadership and ''intelligence'' for Buggy, its that simple.

I never need a mod to destroy you in argument, its too easy ZKKboy, I just reveal your insecurities when you lose a debate and resort to insults instead, which means you lose and I win.
Buggy literally just got a bounty because of "his crew" you negative iq postbox

Shanks crew were not only mentioned
But just like Croc and mihawk for Buggy

WERE NAMED Ben roo yassop

No other yonko had their crew called out like that.

Again power =/= strength

Marines think Buggy can control mihawk

They still give him a lower bounty

You need all the help you can get lmfao
 
Buggy literally just got a bounty because of "his crew" you negative iq postbox

Shanks crew were not only mentioned
But just like Croc and mihawk for Buggy

WERE NAMED Ben roo yassop

No other yonko had their crew called out like that.

Again power =/= strength

Marines think Buggy can control mihawk

They still give him a lower bounty

You need all the help you can get lmfao
ZKKboy learn to read.

I just proved Yonko captain boosts Yonko underling bounties, why are you still lying about this?

Can you read?



Just because Shanks has stronger crew that doesn't make Shanks's bounty bigger. That makes his crew's bounty bigger. There are separate bounties for a reason.

If underling and captain are equal in power, underling gets bigger bounty because captain boosts the underling bounty (read SBS above).

Buggy got bounty because he had ''power to command'' 3.5 billion Mihawk, ''power'', Mihawk owes Buggy nothing. They are pirates, even Fleet Admiral gets selected by power, but these guys here still arguing it should be something else in a lawless pirate world.

Not once they talk about special relationship between Buggy and Mihawk, your US President example is nonsense. Why would Mihawk be controlled by Buggy other than the factor of power? They didn't mention anything about other than power.

You still didn't show where they said Buggy has ''intelligence'' and ''leadership'' just like Crocodile? Where exactly?

At best you can argue its selected like Fleet Admiral between 2 equal Admirals, 1 Admiral slightly stronger, and Fleet Admiral has the power to command Admiral, so they might believe Buggy > Mihawk slightly, but Mihawk gets bigger bounty due to Yonko boosting the underling bounty (again read above SBS).
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
ZKKboy learn to read.

I just proved Yonko captain boosts Yonko underling bounties, why are you still lying about this?

Can you read?



Just because Shanks has stronger crew that doesn't make Shanks's bounty bigger. That makes his crew's bounty bigger. There are separate bounties for a reason.

If underling and captain are equal in power, underling gets bigger bounty because captain boosts the underling bounty (read SBS above).

Buggy got bounty because he had ''power to command'' 3.5 billion Mihawk, ''power'', Mihawk owes Buggy nothing. They are pirates, even Fleet Admiral gets selected by power, but these guys here still arguing it should be something else in a lawless pirate world.

Not once they talk about special relationship between Buggy and Mihawk, your US President example is nonsense. Why would Mihawk be controlled by Buggy other than the factor of power? They didn't mention anything about other than power.

You still didn't show where they said Buggy has ''intelligence'' and ''leadership'' just like Crocodile? Where exactly?

At best you can argue its selected like Fleet Admiral between 2 equal Admirals, 1 Admiral slightly stronger, and Fleet Admiral has the power to command Admiral, so they might believe Buggy > Mihawk slightly, but Mihawk gets bigger bounty due to Yonko boosting the underling bounty (again read above SBS).
Lmfao

Even that sbs says

THE CAPTAINS GET A BIGGER INCREASE
So buggy has no excuse to be lower than mihawk.

All of this is irrelevant.

The panel speaks for itself.


They don't think mihawk is weaker than Buggy


Spandem had the power to control cp0 wasn't stronger than them


It doesn't have to say that erkek

That's not a threat to them

Buggy having mihawk and Croc under him
Being shoulder to shoulder with shanks
Former Roger pirate
Etc is a threat to them
 
Lmfao

Even that sbs says

THE CAPTAINS GET A BIGGER INCREASE
So buggy has no excuse to be lower than mihawk.

All of this is irrelevant.

The panel speaks for itself.


They don't think mihawk is weaker than Buggy


Spandem had the power to control cp0 wasn't stronger than them


It doesn't have to say that erkek

That's not a threat to them

Buggy having mihawk and Croc under him
Being shoulder to shoulder with shanks
Former Roger pirate
Etc is a threat to them
You still run from the argument La01 the ZKKboy

Why would they give 3.1 billion to Buggy if they don't think its related to power? LOL.

Luffy is confirmed as one of the 3 captains who beat 2 Emperors, and also has previous accomplishments, gets only 3 billion.
BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion.

Why Buggy gets bigger bounty than these then explain if they don't think he isn't stronger than Mihawk?

Spandam is a government officer, who represents the combined power of the World Government, he can be replaced by the same World Government when they decide otherwise. Your US president example makes no sense for this reason as well, people choose presidents and they serve to the people's decisions or CP agents serve to the World Government. This is what your ZKK head don't understand.

In pirates world, what is the purpose of Mihawk serving to Buggy exactly? They said nothing about Buggy's leadership or intelligence, thats Crocodile. (that also means Mihawk and Buggy would be dumb)

Buggy and Mihawk have no special relationship, and there is nothing that represents Buggy,

While Spandam just represents Government's combined power and Spandam can be replaceable by government.

Who can replace Buggy and what Buggy represents? Stop being a troll and accept that you make no sense here.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You still run from the argument La01 the ZKKboy

Why would they give 3.1 billion to Buggy if they don't think its related to power? LOL.

Luffy is confirmed as one of the 3 captains who beat 2 Emperors, and also has previous accomplishments, gets only 3 billion.
BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion.

Why Buggy gets bigger bounty than these then explain if they don't think he isn't stronger than Mihawk?

Spandam is a government officer, who represents the combined power of the World Government, he can be replaced by the same World Government when they decide otherwise. Your US president example makes no sense for this reason as well, people choose presidents and they serve to the people's decisions or CP agents serve to the World Government. This is what your ZKK head don't understand.

In pirates world, what is the purpose of Mihawk serving to Buggy exactly? They said nothing about Buggy's leadership or intelligence, thats Crocodile. (that also means Mihawk and Buggy would be dumb if we accept this lmao)

Buggy and Mihawk have no special relationship, and there is nothing that represents Buggy,

While Spandam just represents Government's combined power and Spandam can be replaceable by government.

Who can replace Buggy and what Buggy represents? Stop being a troll and accept that you make no sense here.
Wtf are you on about
They think Buggy has the power to control mihawk and Croc
That's why he has 3 bil along with the other things that they say. It's literally on the page.
 
That should be you since you didn't answer shit and you run from the discussion, you have the audacity to tell me about crying? LOL.

1- I destroyed your stupid Spandam comparison (you want me to repeat again?)
2- You didn't show a single reason on manga why they give 3.1 billion to Buggy if not for power, no mention of intelligence or leadership thing like Croc.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
That should be you since you didn't answer shit and you run from the discussion, you have the audacity to tell me about crying? LOL.

1- I destroyed your stupid Spandam comparison (you want me to repeat again?)
2- You didn't show a single reason on manga why they give 3.1 billion to Buggy if not for power, no mention of intelligence or leadership thing like Croc.
You didn't destroy shit

Why they gave buggys bounty is on the panel

Do you want me to bring my post where I spell it out for you
 
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