Controversial Is Super Sayajin 4 canon now?

[ShinichiMugi]

Spoilers for Dragon Ball Daima

So Goku transformed in SSJ4 in Dragon Ball Daima. Does this create a contrast with Super's plot?
Its now confirmed that Original Manga/Super/GT/Daima are all different timelines?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I’d consider it canon, however, it’s not a transformation goku can do on his own and needs power of the demon realm to trigger hence why it would never have been used in super.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Doesnt Daima take place inbetween the Buu Saga and Super?

Anyway it's canon. It was written by Toriyama, Unlike GT.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It was always canon

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Well,now is even in adult form,and Goku trasformed alone. How can Daima be coherent with Super now? Its impossible

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Well,now is even in adult form,and Goku trasformed alone. How can Daima be coherent with Super now? Its impossible

It's coherent with Super. Both Akira and Toyatoro wrote Super, more than likely it will be fit in somehow by the end of daima

 

[ShinichiMugi]

It's coherent with Super. Both Akira and Toyatoro wrote Super, more than likely it will be fit in somehow by the end of daima

Only one episode left for Daima and we'll see,but for now,the possibility that they will have to be considered two alternate timelines is high

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Only one episode left for Daima and we'll see,but for now,the possibility that they will have to be considered two alternate timelines is high

But we already know it's not. Its been stated it takes place after the Buu Saga but before Super

 

[ShinichiMugi]

But we already know it's not. Its been stated it takes place after the Buu Saga but before Super

I see,but someone like Goku,even if they delete his memory,would have the "intuition" with his intelligence in fighting,that he can reach ssj4 imho,and would use it in Super

 

[Mr. Anderson]

I see,but someone like Goku,even if they delete his memory,would have the "intuition" with his intelligence in fighting,that he can reach ssj4 imho,and would use it in Super

This is just the consequences of retcons lmao