Controversial Is The World Government A Good System?

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#42
Yes THE MEMBER NATIONS

If anything the WG system is a half baked idea that has corruptibility embedded within it's very structure. Having a nice idea on how to build a government isn't enough . The WG was bound to become as rotten as it is because of flaws in the theoretical system.

Plus the WG is adapting. Warlords are relatively new, yonko haven't been around before those that we know of. Therefore the system allows for flexibility and based on what we have seen of it so far, the central kingdom with CDs as a godlike status is the main issue, all recent changes to the government structure were made to secure the status quo and protect the useless bum ass CDs from ever being touched.
The WG lacks any sort of relevant checks and balances.

Its democratic values only apply to like 1% of the WORLD while it simultaneously calls itself the WORLD government. Don't you see the issue here?
Ultimately, the one who's the last word is always Imu who may choose to nuke anyone they wish, even affiliated countries, even CDs won't be safe.

Remove Imu and you're still dealing with a tyrannical regime that censors and rewrites history, extracts ridiculously high taxes from the member countries to feed an elite that never even steps foot on ''commoner'' soil without an entourage of bodyguards, personal slaves and a gun in hand to legally shoot and kill anyone who dares so much as to look at them the wrong way, who may choose to kidnap and enslave any person they want.

The WG's hinges on the CDs' existence. If we remove the CDs then what would be left of the actual WG system?
We can keep playing this game of removing problematic part after problematic part of the WG system until we are left with nothing 😂
What are you even yapping about kid lmfao, I am talking about an what an idealistic world democracy might look like, I have no idea what you are malding over
 
#43
It's great, in theory.
We as readers are privvy to all its crines and shortcomings.
If instead of the gorosei there was a council of regent kings, picked every Reverie, that would serve as a stopgap in case bad policies get voted in in the Reverie, then the WG could work splendidly.
Have every member country send a representative to Mariejois to serve as their liaison, also on a Reverie-to-Reverie term.
 
#44
Democracy is inherently flawed because it allows lunatics like Trump to get in power by allowing idiots to vote. There's no ideal system when humanity itself is flawed lol.
Meh

Blaming democracy because people are retarded isn’t fair to democracy. In an ideal democracy, all parties are equally well informed and are voting for the right reasons and not corrupt ones.
I think it is a valid criticism when the word is derived from Greek roughly meaning "rule by the people" or "power of the people". In short, the people are (hypothetically) the highest authority in the nation.

If you can't trust the people to not be retarded, you just flat out have zero trust in the concept of democracy in general. No respect/trust for the hypothetical highest authority = fundamentally no respect for the system in general.
 
#47
Its been a while since i asked the masses a question, was busy doing irl stuff but here's the question I want to

Present to the class

Is the world government a good system?

Now don't be confused i'm not asking if its ran by good people or if the world government is good or evil

I want to know is the system itself a good system?

I personally think yes, without them pirates would be much more rampant, there'd be a lot more wars between countries
No.

Some sort of global alliance akin to NATO or UN is definitely a good system.

World government however is inherently a bad system.

It has to do with effectiveness and efficiency. More removed decision-makers are from the immediate issue, more likely they are to screw up even IF they genuinely have people's best interests at heart. And more removed they are from the local community, less likely they are to care about it - elected or not.

So the world government could be composed of the biggest saints (and I mean, actual saints), and it would still be bad system. Fact that it is run by evil people merely moves it from being "merely bad" to "pretty damn awful".

Basically this:
https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=english_4610jrrt
https://fantasyview.wordpress.com/2024/04/16/tolkiens-ideal-of-monarchy/

Turn the "World Government" into basically just the Reverie + defense alliance, and it is an OK system. But introduce the Celestial Tribute, central government having laws enforced by global-spanning military... that is a recipe for disaster.

Democracy is inherently flawed because it allows lunatics like Trump to get in power by allowing idiots to vote. There's no ideal system when humanity itself is flawed lol.
Problem with democracy is that it puts people in power who want to be in power, and such people are pretty much without exception always lunatics. Sure, Trump is a lunatic... but if you want to know why he won, all you need is take a good look at who his competition was.

In this case, communism is way better since it is ''equality for everyone'' whereas true democracy is the majority only and minorities have no saying.
Equality for everyone is the ideal.
In practice it nearly always ends up being genocide for everyone.

Humans are not equal by nature, and trying to force equality will always end up in mass murder.

So no, communism is an inherently awful system. Any system trying to establish some kind of "ideal" or utopian society is.
 
#48
Equality for everyone is the ideal.
In practice it nearly always ends up being genocide for everyone.

Humans are not equal by nature, and trying to force equality will always end up in mass murder.

So no, communism is an inherently awful system. Any system trying to establish some kind of "ideal" or utopian society is.
Totally agree ! I was quoting a post that says ''ideal situation'' though that's why I brought up that theorically it is the best but in practise...
 
#49
In one piece it's Grey on the world stage as it help and hurts the world and bad from a readers point of view. The idea of the world government is good but put into practice by imu running it then it goes off the rails.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#54
It's more complicated than that.
Almost every WG affiliated country that we've seen so far is a monarchy. But those monarchies are governed by an oligarchy, itself being in secret a monarchy.
So, it's monarchies atop of monarchies, all the way down.
ye, awful lol
 
#56
The WG did not combat piracy, their very existence was a catalyst for piracy. Piracy is a symptom of the WG's authoritarian rule, and the perfect world scenario where it would work if the right person was in charge is just childish fantasy.

A single ruling entity requires a single unified culture and set of rules/laws which is just counter to everything in one piece.

They can only function as a military force by taking resources from unaffiliated countries which isn't a long term strategy because that list of countries will get smaller and smaller and then they have to either create new ones or take from their own.

The concept of a WG in one piece can only work if the people on top are abusing the people on the bottom, if they change it to a trade union might be onto something but aside from that no.
 
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