General & Others Is There a Limit to How Hard Oda will Embarrass the Yonko?

Is There A Limit To How Low Oda Will Sink To Humiliate The Yonko?


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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#1
I’m sure a thread like this will get reported to the mods by triggered Yonko fans who shall remain nameless, but the question needs to be asked regardless of who it offends and what corrupt mods who shall also remain nameless decide to abuse their power.

The Four Emperors at this point in the manga are known for receiving very high hype only for Oda to completely disgrace them afterwards. The most obvious examples of this being Big Mom and Kaido:

Big Mom was hyped as being an invincible freak of nature before she acquired a Devil Fruit, equal to Kaido in strength and threat level, and then Oda
-Destroyed her already defective brain on panel and reduced her into a plot device rather than the main villain of her own arc
-Turned her on DF against her and had Nami face plant her into the dirt and attack her with her own Homies who are supposed to be scared of her
-Made the Thousand Sunny Cou De Burst into her mouth
-Had Jinbe pimp slap her 1v1 when she was amped by two of her homies
-Had Brooke speed blitz her easily

And in Wano:
-Had her drowned after Oda sent her falling into the ocean like an East Blue rookie when she literally has flying powers
-Then Oda destroyed her brain again and turned her into Chopper’s ride
-Then he dried to dress her up in a Kimono and makeup only to have Franky literally do a wheelie on her face and Brooke speed blitz her once again
-Then Jinbe treated her like a complete joke and he and Robin were able to roll her out of the manga with ease
-Then she ran away from Marco after openly admitting that she couldn’t defeat him
-And finally she showed fear of Zoro who doesn’t even have full control of Enma yet.

It sure seems like Oda doesn’t value her or her hype in the slightest. Kaido is also notorious for shit portrayal. He was hyped as the 1v1 King unofficially and as potentially the strongest character in the series who is eager for fights,
-Then Oda portrays him as a crying drunk after Doflamingo’s defeat
-He screams in terror like a frightened little girl at the prospect of fighting a non-full power Big Mom Pirates despite his life’s goal seemingly to find exhilaration in war?
-He actually seemed subservient to Orochi for quite a while
-Then he was shown to have extremely low pain tolerance like Cracker when he screams in pain or fear at every attack he takes and even at times when he isn’t taking any damage
-Then Oda portrays him as Big Meme’s equal in strength
-Then Oda draws him suffering PTSD from the only 1v1 he’s ever fought in his life and is living in a permanent state of fear over a guy who really only gave him a minor injury (again demonstrating Kaido’s extremely low pain tolerance)

For the supposed 1v1 king, he sure seems like a scared little bitch who can’t take a hit most of the time and is scared to fight the wars he claims he seeks lol.

And these two are portrayed as the current strongest Yonko, so what do you think? Is there any limit to how low Oda will sink to degrade the Yonko as characters and disrespect their strength? Why has Oda given Big Mom and Kaido so many low points but so little high points? Share your thoughts.

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Jo_Ndule

#2
Linlin never feared Zoro. So you're dishonest

Linlin didn't run from Marco. She got bored and wanted to go to the rooftop where bigger gisuee were.
She let Marco free and do what he wants, same with minks or samurais under the dome.

Oda is crazy ...he will make them look like clowns when he likes

Admirals will suffer worse since they won't be main villains of a saga or Arc anymore.
 
#3
Embarrass them? What do you mean by that, they are his characters. Everything in One Piece is different on surface level to how things actually are. Look at Luffy as a prime example, what do you think the world sees him as? Destroyed Enies Lobby, broke out of Impel Down, punched a celestial, devised a plan and went into Big Moms territory, beat two of her commanders and came out alive. Then after this imagine you see luffy get momentarily knocked out by a character like Apoo, or get held down by Ulti one of the flying six almost resorting to Gear Fourth. You would probably have the same reaction.

Personally, I think Big Mom is an absolute beast, she doesn't even have any scars on her entire body. Oda can do what he wants, they are his characters and I think it gives them all a nice human element that they wouldn't have otherwise.
 
#5
As long as small inconsequential events keep being pushed as humiliating. Then no there’s technically no limit. If we use reality, Kaido/ Shanks/ WB hasn’t been humiliating at all. Most of ur examples are joke like. An yelling after being stabbed not exactly humiliating. Meme been a mess tho, but that’s only when completely insane....
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#7
Shanks, WB, Roger and BB were/are/will be respected.

oda put himself in difficulty with 2 yonko at the same time in Wano and he looks for solutions for them not destroying the SN asap. So he made them weird power wise brain wise etc.

kaido will have his share of glory as main antagonist but later when BM will go away.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#8
Shanks, WB, Roger and BB were/are/will be respected.

oda put himself in difficulty with 2 yonko at the same time in Wano and he looks for solutions for them not destroying the SN asap. So he made them weird power wise brain wise etc.

kaido will have his share of glory as main antagonist but later when BM will go away.
Roger was not a Yonko lol. And he was never humiliated and degraded the way Kaido and Big Mom are.
 
#14
Oda has always played heavy favourites with characters. It’s not just the yonko, although they have some of the most egregiously bad portrayal given the hype they’ve received.

Take a look at Marco’s portrayal vs Jozu. Jozu was a literal punching bag, bruised by Mihawk, played like a violin by Doffy and dismembered by Kuzan. Meanwhile Marco’s portrayal speaks for itself. Oda is not capable of making all his characters actually competent and worthy of their hype, he has to repeatedly dehype and shit on certain characters so his favoured children can shine. Hence Big Meme and Laido of the 100 Hostages. Needless to say he will continue shitting all over these two to prop up Rubber Jesus and Marimo, with the results of his favouritism evident in the popularity polls this year. People do NOT like Crydo and Meme. Wonder why.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#15
Oda has always played heavy favourites with characters. It’s not just the yonko, although they have some of the most egregiously bad portrayal given the hype they’ve received.

Take a look at Marco’s portrayal vs Jozu. Jozu was a literal punching bag, bruised by Mihawk, played like a violin by Doffy and dismembered by Kuzan. Meanwhile Marco’s portrayal speaks for itself. Oda is not capable of making all his characters actually competent and worthy of their hype, he has to repeatedly dehype and shit on certain characters so his favoured children can shine. Hence Big Meme and Laido of the 100 Hostages. Needless to say he will continue shitting all over these two to prop up Rubber Jesus and Marimo, with the results of his favouritism evident in the popularity polls this year. People do NOT like Crydo and Meme. Wonder why.
I don’t think Jozu was humiliated, he just showed the limits of his strength against stronger characters.

Oda gave Big Mom makeup for the sole purpose of having Franky pop a wheelie on her face. He made Kaido a warmonger who is afraid to fight wars lol.

Jozu looks extremely respectable by comparison.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#16
I don’t think Jozu was humiliated, he just showed the limits of his strength against stronger characters.

Oda gave Big Mom makeup for the sole purpose of having Franky pop a wheelie on her face. He made Kaido a warmonger who is afraid to fight wars lol.

Jozu looks extremely respectable by comparison.
I think oda thinks if he gives her good portrayal when shes with/interacts with kaido it makes up for her being retarded with everyone else
 
#17
Only BM is used as a gag........obviously she can't go around killing any main characters........you can also say similar things to dragon kaido.....but this also has reasons.......if kaido fought scabbards in base from the start...they would have gotten destroyed.....they need to do something hence dragon form...........
 
#18
I always am of the opinion that the point of the Yonko (well rather Kaido and BM) is to embarrass them, drag them down their high horse and completely humiliate them. They will lose their status, all their hard work, their army by the end of the arc.
Gonna be more letdown when this humiliation happens to BB, he got the two strongest df's one which acts like a fucking nerfed black hole, but is gonna get beaten by rubber joyboy despite achieving ultimate power, breaking even a df rule.
 
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