Powers & Abilities Is there any chance Luffy learns grappling to his fight?

[uyuu]

As we know, in MMA there is striking and grappling. Luffy is an expert in striking, do you think there's a possibility for him to learn throwing movements, submissions, leg locks, arm bars etc?

While i'm fascinated by how grapplers can reverse a dominated situation, i don't think Oda would show enough love to grappling, and it may not fit shonen style to suddenly break an arm or ankle of a bigger opponent. I can only use my imagination though.

How do you think?

 

[Finalbeta]

I think he showed something like this vs Lucci when he used his leg to trap Lucci's leg.

That may count as submission, I'm not sure still, not an expert in MMA.

I only practice Karate IRL lol.

 

[Ravagerblade]

I think he showed something like this vs Lucci when he used his leg to trap Lucci's leg.

That may count as submission, I'm not sure still, not an expert in MMA.

I only practice Karate IRL lol.

Imagine if he used whatever Annie Leonhart uses. lawl

 

[soultrain]

wow, Luffy would be invincible in jiu jitsu. can't be submitted and could sub others in infinite ways

 

[Monkey D Theories]

grappling is one of the most effective ways to take down an enemy but you will never see it in shonen because it looks visually unappealing

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oda doesn't acutallactually use real world martial arts so he can't start trying to reference them since he doesn't know much about them

 

[uyuu]

imagine Weevil swinging his bisento about to attack Luffy, then Luffy closes in instead for a clinch, uses arm and wrist control to snatch away the bisento, disarming Weevil and ending the fight with a punch.

imo the issue with this fight description is Oda having to assimilate this to shonen style, meaning Luffy may have to transform his wrist, shoulders, forearms visually for his grips and chokes to look thick, solid and menacing.

Also, Oda must handle and create unique visual impact/blast emanating from the chokes and grips, and the effect it produces on the surroundings like once he activates ground and pound to his enemy, each impacts gradually turn a the land they stand and grapple on, or the mountains they lean on, into craters and rubbles.

If he manages that, the rest is peasy, just the spectators' commenting that "that grip is heavier than a mountain crushing on you" etc

 

[sanjikun]

How often do people use grappling in a real fight? Grappling is useful in tight constricted areas, and sports which are well defined.

If MMA had no ring, and no rules on playing dirty, it'd be a very different sport.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Nah, I don't feel like Oda gonna use real life martial art technique in One Piece to be honest. Especially when Luffy fighting opponents that's way larger than his size like Kaido and Big Mom LOL

 

[Eustass]

How often do people use grappling in a real fight? Grappling is useful in tight constricted areas, and sports which are well defined.

If MMA had no ring, and no rules on playing dirty, it'd be a very different sport.

Not true at all. You clearly don't know much. I can post multiple videos. A jiu jutsu great fighter takes on a boxer on the streets easy. Wrestlers? Even easier. Judo as well.

Striking has a possibility of winning always, but the advantage is always for the grappler.

 

[SHIHI]

Khabib style

Yes, it would be cool to see Luffy suplexing Kaido.

 

[uyuu]

How often do people use grappling in a real fight? Grappling is useful in tight constricted areas, and sports which are well defined.

If MMA had no ring, and no rules on playing dirty, it'd be a very different sport.

grappling is crazy strong on a street fight. on the average, tripping or locking the enemy to reach dominant position is more valuable than scoring a punch, because by gaining dominance you can easily punch the opponent like there's no tomorrow.

For example is the recent and trending fight, Khabib Nurmagomedov (grappling expert) vs Connor McGregor (striking expert). In Connor's previous matches, Connor showed great striking timing, damage, precision etc. But facing Khabib, it's like Khabib toyed with him

Nah, I don't feel like Oda gonna use real life martial art technique in One Piece to be honest. Especially when Luffy fighting opponents that's way larger than his size like Kaido and Big Mom LOL

yep, i'm not feeling it to especially since Oda isn't familiar to that grappling concept. Even Zoro's swordsmanship since post timeskip was just big slashes with humongous damage. We dont get the sword stance feints, footwork feints, analyzing the vitals to slash or pierce... i guess Oda wont get that technical to Luffy either, and will put more fantasy techniques and explosions instead, but it's really nice for me to imagine Luffy with fantasy-scaled grappling equipped.

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Cqc skills mean nothing now that Haki is a thing, so I doubt it

 

[Rmstorm]

Cqc skills mean nothing now that Haki is a thing, so I doubt it

They mean everything to Luffy.

 

[sanjikun]

Not true at all. You clearly don't know much. I can post multiple videos. A jiu jutsu great fighter takes on a boxer on the streets easy. Wrestlers? Even easier. Judo as well.

Striking has a possibility of winning always, but the advantage is always for the grappler.

i DoNt kNoW mUcH

 

[Eustass]

i DoNt kNoW mUcH

Lmao, did you even watch it? He didn't say anything about grappling being worse than striking, just that striking is as important. If there two dudes, striking is necessary as you don't want to be kicked in the head.

He would say tho that a wrestler takes on a boxer most of the times times 1-1, I practiced box and most people share the same opinion. BJJ and Judo too. He literally is a grappling master TO HAVE SELF DEFENSE, and you literally said grappling is not useful on the street, just with rules. Anything Joe Rogan throws is in my favour here.

And in street fights, they're even more dangerous. A judo throw on concrete and it's game over.

 

[Eustass]

i DoNt kNoW mUcH

Most strikers that dont practice grappling have no takedown defense. The time they go to the ground, they have no chance. And if you talk about dick hitting or biting, you could do that in the early UFC and BJJ & wrestling were still the most dominant disciplines.

 

[Gran D. Master]

A jiu jutsu great fighter takes on a boxer on the streets easy

How do they do that? "Hey bro let me get close enough to grab you without you punching me in the face". Jiu jitsu isn't wrestling

 

[Eustass]

How do they do that? "Hey bro let me get close enough to grab you without you punching me in the face". Jiu jitsu isn't wrestling

Have you never seen how a Jiu Jitsu puts a guy to the ground? The boxer won't even react. And you literally ignored the other arguments.

Im not being against striking, it is great and I trained much more striking than grappling, but @sanjikun said Street fights won't go to the ground like UFC does, and that's not true.

 

[SHIHI]

i DoNt kNoW mUcH

Wait, are you sure you watched the video?