Questions & Mysteries Kaido KNOWS he is DESTINED to die

[ImmaIvanoM]

Now that we know Kaido knows about Joyboy, we can assume he knows this too.

Therefore Kaido knows that there is a prophecy around Joyboy liberating Wano and opening its borders or at least Joyboy is connected to the Opening of Wano’s borders.

If we assume Kaido learned this information from his time in the Rocks pirates, that means that Kaido came to Wano to subjugate it KNOWING Joyboy would show up and the country would be freed from his subjugation.

Kaido basically Put himself in Joyboy’s way knowing his defeat was somehow inevitable if these prophecies are to be believed.

Does that mean that Kaido’s plan ALL ALONG was to DIE at Joyboy’s hand?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

zoro isn't joyboy

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Kaido and Luffy will have the smiling contest and whoever smiles the loudest wins.

 

[HA001]

Now that we know Kaido knows about Joyboy, we can assume he knows this too.

Therefore Kaido knows that there is a prophecy around Joyboy liberating Wano and opening its borders or at least Joyboy is connected to the Opening of Wano’s borders.

If we assume Kaido learned this information from his time in the Rocks pirates, that means that Kaido came to Wano to subjugate it KNOWING Joyboy would show up and the country would be freed from his subjugation.

Kaido basically Put himself in Joyboy’s way knowing his defeat was somehow inevitable if these prophecies are to be believed.

Does that mean that Kaido’s plan ALL ALONG was to DIE at Joyboy’s hand?

That's not joyboy liberating wano.
Oden said he wanted it open BEFORE that day comes. The day joyboy appears isn't in wano but later. (Likely when luffy becomes king)

 

[Ryuarashi]

Zoro is not the reincarnation of Joyboy, what will happen to Zkk @stairs-kun

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

That's not joyboy liberating wano.
Oden said he wanted it open BEFORE that day comes. The day joyboy appears isn't in wano but later. (Likely when luffy becomes king)

i mean i think its ambiguous but even still wano will be liberated and wano’s liberation is connected to Joyboy

Kaido came to take over a country that is destined to be liberated and is connected to some ancient

 

[Zowo]

zoro as the new ryuma gonna kill kaido for joyboy

 

[HA001]

i mean i think its ambiguous but even still wano will be liberated and wano’s liberation is connected to Joyboy

Kaido came to take over a country that is destined to be liberated and is connected to some ancient

It's not ambiguous
He literally says there he needs to open wano BEFORE joyboy comes
Clearly he learned joy boy is coming and wano has a part to play to help him (probably related to why momo said he can't die)
Wano needs to be ready for the final war.

 

[Finalbeta]

zoro isn't joyboy

You are obsessed ain't you man

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He literally says there he needs to open wano BEFORE joyboy comes

Dude. Kaido knows this prophecy doesnt he? Kaido is a character in the story who knows this prophecy right?

and yet Kaido almost thought Luffy was joyboy... Anha? How come Kaido doesnt say “Well wano hasnt been liberated so clearly Luffy cant be joyboy since Joyboy will only arrive AFTER wano is liberated”

Anha? Why isnt this Kaido’s mindset? Why does he think joyboy could be luffy YET WANO IS NOT OPEN YET?

Because its fuckin Ambiguous. A character in the actual story thinks its ambiguous so who are we to say its definitely not.

 

[HA001]

Dude. Kaido knows this prophecy doesmt he? Kaido is a character in the storh who knows this prophecy right?

and yet Kaido almost thought Luffy was joyboy... Anha? How come Kaido does say “Well wano hasnt been liberated so clearly Luffy cant be joyboy simce Joyboy will only arrive AFTER wano is liberated”

Anha? Why isnt this Kaido’s mindset? Why does he think joyboy could be luffy YET WANO IS OPEN YET?

Because its fuckin Ambiguous. A character in the actual story thinks its ambiguous so who are we to say its definitely not.

Why the fuck does kaido know about it.
Oden only knew about it by going raftel.

 

[Finalbeta]

Kaido and Luffy will have the smiling contest and whoever smiles the loudest wins.

Kaido will smile the loudest when Zoro will take his head out

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Why the fuck does kaido know about it.
Oden only knew about it by going raftel.

Isnt that the mystery? Kaido was on Rocks. Rocks being the crew that knew “taboo topics of the world”

It stands that its a mystery how Kaido is informed but clearly HE KNOWS SOMETHING. He knows Joyboy will return and the ONLY place in the entire manga where the return of Joyboy is mentioned is this panel.

 

[HA001]

Isnt that the mystery? Kaido was on Rocks. Rocks being the crew that knew “taboo topics of the world”

It stands that its a mystery how Kaido is informed but clearly HE KNOWS SOMETHING. He knows Joyboy will return and the ONLY place in the entire manga where the return of Joyboy is mentioned is this panel.

If kaido already knows what oden and Roger found at raftel whys he looking for it ?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Zoro is not the reincarnation of Joyboy, what will happen to Zkk @stairs-kun

momo is the new joyboy but he is too young so his master must kill kaido

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If kaido already knows what oden and Roger found at raftel whys he looking for it ?

Kaido isnt looking for Raftel itself. He wants the one piece.

having information isnt the same as having the prize. Its implied that Sengoku and Whitebeard know what the Will of D is, and we can assume Imu and the Gorosei know the entire ancient history and yet NONE of the above have the one piece or can find Raftel

kaido knows SOMETHING. We dont know if he knows EVERYTHING but this chapter proves he knows something. But since he isnt the pirate king, knowing whatever he knows is still NOT ENOUGH

 

[HA001]

Kaido isnt looking for Raftel itself. He wants the one piece.

having information isnt the same as having the prize. Its implied that Sengoku and Whitebeard know what the Will of D is, and we can assume Imu and the Gorosei know the entire ancient history and yet NONE of the above have the one piece or can find Raftel

kaido knows SOMETHING. We dont know if he knows EVERYTHING but this chapter proves he knows something. But since he isnt the pirate king, knowing whatever he knows is still NOT ENOUGH

You literally put up a panel that Oden only knows because he went to raftel
Robin knows joyboy so does Neptune doesn't mean they know what oden does
Wb knows cause Roger told him
Sengoku knows cause his higher ups told him as fleet Admiral.

 

[stairs-kun]

Zoro is not the reincarnation of Joyboy, what will happen to Zkk @stairs-kun

ZKK IS INEVITABLE!!

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You literally put up a panel that Oden only knows because he went to raftel
Robin knows joyboy so does Neptune doesn't mean they know what oden does
Wb knows cause Roger told him
Sengoku knows cause his higher ups told him as fleet Admiral.

So far, ONLY Oden and Kaido know that Joyboy will return

They are literally the only people who have mentioned this.


Now lets follow this very carefully

When Oden mentioned that he knew Joyboy would return, he mentioned it at the same time as WANO BEING OPENED

When Kaido mentioned that he knew Joyboy woukd return, he mentioned it at the same time as he is defeating a person trying to OPEN WANO’S BORDERS

Do you see where I’m going with this?

is it a coincidence that Kaido and Oden both mention the return of Joyboy in context of the Opening of Wano?

Again, we dont know how much Kaido knows in totality, we dont even know if Kaido hqs a way to read the poneglyphs yet. What we do know is that Kaido knows this panel. He has to. Because he is saying stuff that only makes sense if he knows this panel.

 

[Finalbeta]

momo is the new joyboy but he is too young so his master must kill kaido

Momo shall probably grow following the shadow of Oden and the Grandmaster in particular.