Theory Kaidou's "Ace in the hole"

Do you think Kaidou has an "Ace" Calamity?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 75.0%

  • Total voters
    8
#1
Hey guys! (and ladies :p). Hope y'all had a bless weekend ^^. Today I'm gonna be bringing you guys and girls another theory, that popped into my head when I was reading @Monkey D Theories's thread on Kaidou possible having an "Ace" amongst his ranks.

Background
At this point in the wano arc, I don't think there's any denying that the beast pirates are heavily themed around cards and card games. I mean we have characters named King, Queen and Jack who also just so happen to be Kaidou's strongest subordinates generally referred to as the "All Stars" and then the next level in the hierarchy in the "Headliners" who are based off of card games e.g. Page One, Old Maid, Solitaire etc and then there's Kaidou's ex. business partner in Doffy who had the alias "Joker". So given this trend, it's naturally to expect that beast pirates will also have some sort of Ace character. That said however, we are already closing in on the climax of the arc "Act 4" and there's still no sign of such a character. Plus, we got a glimpse of Kaidou's crew structure 20 years ago in the Oden flashback which featured King & Queen and still no Ace, so does this "Ace" character really exist? and if he/she did? how could this character possibly be introduced into the story at this point without it being forced, what, with it being so deep into the Wano arc already?


I'd be addressing the aforementioned questions as I go further into my theory. So now without further ado, let's get to it ^^.

Does Kaidou have an "Ace" Calamity?
Well I'd say there's a very high probability that there is one for the following reasons:
- Jack's attack on Zou
When Jack attacked Zou the second time, he was escorted by several ships with scorpion figureheads, all of which had the beast pirate's Jolly Roger indicating these ships are affiliated with the beast pirates.


I think the fact that these ships had a custom figurehead indicates that the commander of said ships is a prominent figure within the beast pirates. For example, Jack's ship has a mammoth figure head (as shown above) and Queen's ship has a branchiosarous figure head, themed after their devil fruit abilities. So it's very likely that the commander of those ships is some sort of scorpion zoan. Also the fact that this particular entity has not just one ship but several, makes it very unlikely that said character ranks below the rank of "All Star". So chances are that these ships belong to the "Ace" which is the only high ranking face card we are missing atm.

- OP Magazine
Very early on in the arc, when we got a glimpse of the tragedy that befell Wano 20 years ago through Kinemon, and got to see silhouettes of Kaidou's calamities when Oden's castle was set ablaze - silhouette which looked like Jack, and then two others which us readers assumed to be King and Queen and this turned out to be accurate for the most part. However, several weeks/months later, OP magazine featured an extended shot of that particular panel which appeared to have not just three but 4 silhouettes as opposed to the 3 we had in the earlier scans. So it's likely that this fourth entity is Kaidou's "Ace".


- Queen's ship
During the Udon subplot, when Queen set sail for Onigashima with Big mom, we got to see his ship and on it there was an inscription "Q 03"


The "Q" most likely referring to Queen of course and the "03" part potentially indicating that Queen is the 3rd commander of Kaidou's fleet and not the second making way for a potential "Ace" to be the first commander of Kaidou's fleet, so we'd have a scenario like this - "A 01", "K 02" and "Q 03" which conforms to how the cards rank in a regular deck of cards. It's also possible that the "03" in that inscription is simply referring to the ship being Queen's 3rd ship. I mean the scorpion zoan user seemed to have several ships as well, so it's possible. It's also possible that Oda is teasing a potential Queen v Sanji match up. However the initial bit of speculation is very interesting to think about.


So now with the aforementioned hints of Kaidou potentially having an "Ace" amongst his ranks, who could this character possibly be and how could Oda seemlessly integrate him/her into the plot?

At this point in the arc, adding an extra power house will only seem forced and unnecessary imo. However, that won't be the case if said character has already long since been introduced into the plot and with this I'm referring to the "traitor" figure that has been a hot topic of discussion even before the wano arc started. The reason why I think this "Ace" entity could be the notorious "traitor/spy" figure are as follows:
- The idea of having a traitor in the enemies ranks fits the very concept of an "Ace in the hole" or "having on Ace up your sleeve" and I don't think it'd be over estimation to say that said traitor served this purpose perfectly in giving Kaidou and advantage over Oden 20 years ago when Kaidou was able to prepare for Oden and the scabbards attack in advance.
- The fact that this "Ace" entity was present during that panel of Oden's castle burning even though he/she seemingly didn't make an appearance during the showdown between Oden & his scabbards vs Kaidou's forces could be explained by said entity being undercover at the time. (i..e I suspect that said traitor was the one who stabbed Ashura in the back in chapter 970).


Lastly, who could this "Ace" entity possibly be?
Looking at the silhouette of this potential 4th calamity above, he/she doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to any of the scabbards, so the two things that came to mind are 1.) the clear clear fruit - the barrier barrier fruit and the copy copy fruit have already made an appearance in the fb, so I thought of the possibility that maybe said "spy" has the ability. However, the "spy" still exists in the current timeline and we know shiryu current has that fruit and absalom before him so I think we can safely exclude that possibility. 2.) some sort of shape-shifting ability - currently we know katarina devon possesses this fruit however, in one piece, devil fruits are not the only means of shape-shifting. We've seen Onimaru do something very similar by transforming into what appears to be a human known as "Gyukimaru" so what if this "Ace" figure is some sort of mythical creature like Onimaru? There's been a quite a few yokai references in this arc with Onimaru being one of them and we don't know whether Onimaru is the only one of it's kind. The Kitsune (fox) in japanase folklore are known to be very intelligent and powerful shape-shifters and also sometime posses other abilities like "possession" which brings another possibility (
kitsune yokai). What's very interesting about this "Ace" entity being some sort of mythical creature tho is that it further allows the possibility of said "Ace" to possess a scorpion zoan :p. For example chopper was a reindeer that ate the human human fruit - model "human". The beast pirates are crew heavily consisting of zoan users, so it wouldn't surprise me if they had a chopper type zoan ^^.

Anyways back to this issue of the Kitsune, something else to note about the kitsune is that they often appear in the guise of beautiful young women :p. With regards to this, Kiku could potentially fit the bill as this supposed "Ace" shape-shifter entity. Moreover, something that has bugged me for a bit is, throughout the flashback, we never got any indication of Kiku being gay or anything about him having the heart of a woman which is a bit odd. So this particular character trait could be that of the "Ace" entity. Maybe Ace is actually a "woman". The hand that stabbed Ashura in chapter 970 did look like a woman's after all. It could be that Oda just thought that it was not important enough to add how Kiku came to the realization that he was a she into the flashback, which is a shame as I was very interested in it, but it's odd regardless.

Then there's Kinemon who has the name "Kitsunebi" which one could think could be a reference to the kind of fox I'm describing above.

Anyways that's all I have on this "Ace" character for now. Hope y'all enjoyed the read ^^.
 
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Jo_Ndule

#3
Jack is like Snack and Ace
> Newly Young appointed commanders

Queen and King are just likeMarco&Jozu / Cracker & smoothie
> Veteran commanders

Beast Ace will be like Oden and Kata
> Ultimate commanders
 
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#4
Jack is like Snack and Ace
> Newly Young appointed commanders

Queen and King are just likeMarco&Jozu / Cracker.
> Veteran commanders

Beast Ace will be like Oden and Kata
> Ultimate commanders
Even though I’m speculating on Ace being Kaidou’s first fleet commander, I don’t necessarily think that he/she will be strongest of the bunch as the Ace card isn’t necessarily always the strongest card in a Deck but it’s a possibility ^^. Defo don’t agree with Katakuri being put in the same breathe as Oden tho :p

Also slightly off topic, but
the fact the Yonkou are rivals doesn’t necessarily mean their crews would mirror each other.
- Both Kaidou & Lilin’s bounties are comparable but Kaidou’s commanders bounties blow the Big mom Pirate’s bounties out of the water.
- King & Queen have a kinda rivalry going on btw them (there’s no superiority there) whereas Katakuri is revered as some sort of messiah/big brother figure amongst the Charlotte including the sweet Commanders.
- There’s a nice balance between the bounties of the sweet Commanders. However there seems to be disparity between the bounties of the calamities (particularly Queen & Jack).
- Katakuri thinks very highly of Cracker’s strength, whereas King & Queen look down on Jack.
- Even though it was established that Lilin is out of Queen’s league, Queen has way better portrayal against his supposed counterpart in Smoothie against BM in her hunger pangs state.

Different crews have different dynamics.
 
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Jo_Ndule

#5
Even though I’m speculating on Ace being Kaidou’s first fleet commander, I don’t necessarily think that he/she will be strongest of the bunch as the Ace card isn’t necessarily always the strongest card in a Deck but it’s a possibility ^^. Defo don’t agree with Katakuri being put in the same breathe as Oden tho :p

Also slightly off topic, but
the fact the Yonkou are rivals doesn’t necessarily mean their crews would mirror each other.
- Both Kaidou & Lilin’s bounties are comparable but Kaidou’s commanders bounties blow the Big mom Pirate’s bounties out of the water.
- King & Queen have a kinda rivalry going on btw them (there’s no superiority there) whereas Katakuri is revered as some sort of messiah/big brother figure amongst the Charlotte including the sweet Commanders.
- There’s a nice balance between the bounties of the sweet Commanders. However there seems to be disparity between the bounties of the calamities (particularly Queen & Jack).
- Katakuri thinks very highly of Cracker’s strength, whereas King & Queen look down on Jack.
- Even though it was established that Lilin is out of Queen’s league, Queen has way better portrayal against his supposed counterpart in Smoothie against BM in her hunger pangs state.

Different crews have different dynamics.
Smoothie ran away coz she knows her Mom cant be stopped! And you want her to fight her mother? Lol

I didn't say Oden = Kata
But that Oden was set apart from wb commanders : CoC VoAT Natural freak
Just like Kata is set apart from SCs: CoC FS Awakening

King isn't set apart from Queen , same with Marco wasn't really set apart from Jozu.

It makes sense for the hidden calamity to be strongest calamity. He will have CoC + other rare skills

Kata respects cracker coz he is family,
He literally respects and like his siblings.
And cracker is 3 years younger and strong

Unlike jack who is gonna be a decade younger than King and queen
Always dragging them down
 
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#10
I truly enjoyed reading the theory.
I also forgot about the "scorpion" ships. We were discussing those ships theorizing it's Queen's. and once Oda revealed Queen's ability... we slowly forgot about it... but I never thought you'd bring them back and refer Ace as the "scorpion" man!
That's an awesome thought.

Man, if there is an Ace to be revealed... and Oda is hiding it for a shocking moment... that's gonna be grandiose.. I can feel it... SPECIALLY if it was playing the spy all this time!
 
#12
I truly enjoyed reading the theory.
I also forgot about the "scorpion" ships. We were discussing those ships theorizing it's Queen's. and once Oda revealed Queen's ability... we slowly forgot about it... but I never thought you'd bring them back and refer Ace as the "scorpion" man!
That's an awesome thought.

Man, if there is an Ace to be revealed... and Oda is hiding it for a shocking moment... that's gonna be grandiose.. I can feel it... SPECIALLY if it was playing the spy all this time!
I’m glad you enjoyed it ^^. With the current chapter, Oda is again putting emphasis on the existence of yokai on Wano, so this so called Traitor might be some sort of mythical being of sorts. which would be pretty lit ^^ and I think he'd fit perfectly with the rest of the beast pirates ^^. I was thinking some sort of kitsune (fox) but a Tanuki (raccoon) would also be lit!
 
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ardym

#14
well Apoo might be Kaido's ace since he seems to be the leader of the numbers :D
just like X-drake is a memeber or even maybe the leader of the 6 flying fighters
 
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