Character Discussion Kuma and Herald are horrible person

#2
Kuma is a coward who couldn't save Ginny. He should have raided Mary Geoise without caring about his life.
Herald gave up on marrying Ida because he is a greedy person who wanted to keep his throne.


Both Kuma and Herald are horrible and coward
The dog kicked by Hancock is also a horrible person blocking her path to give her psoriasis and mess up her back by forcing her to kick him
 
#4
The dog kicked by Hancock is also a horrible person blocking her path to give her psoriasis and mess up her back by forcing her to kick him
Dogs are disgusting
But her kicking the cat makes her horrible person too
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Not everyone should have thread making rights
Argue with logic
Not random shit
Oda wants to sell the idea of them being a good person
But both of them abandoned their loved one because of cowardice
 
#8
Ida never had any ambition to become queen, while Harald clearly had every reason to stay king. He wanted to change the country and its culture, and we know he succeeded. He may have been an absent father, but we still don’t know that for sure.

Kuma, on the other hand, I just can’t defend from that angle.
People love to joke about Dragon, but the one who should have gone to Mary Geoise to try and save Ginny was Kuma.
What was he hoping for? That Ginny would somehow manage to escape from Mary Geoise on her own after being enslaved? For years he does nothing, even though he has no news about her? If she had managed to escape, she would’ve found a den den mushi and called them, just like she did when she was already on the verge of death.
Ginny was abandoned by everyone. From Dragon, I can understand it. The life of one person shouldn’t risk the entire revolutionary army. Sacrificing one for the greater good is justifiable. But from Kuma? Not nearly as much.

If I were Oda, I would've made it so that Kuma and the others didn't know Ginny had been taken by the Celestial Dragons, and only found out at the end when she contacted them. That would've worked way better.
 
#9
Kuma is a coward who couldn't save Ginny. He should have raided Mary Geoise without caring about his life.
Herald gave up on marrying Ida because he is a greedy person who wanted to keep his throne.


Both Kuma and Herald are horrible and coward
Well there's no guarantee that he could have suceeded especially because they didn't know where Ginny was did they?

And Dragon knew about Imu's knights

But Kuma freely took the pain of the elderly and temporsrily saved a country

I don't know what's up with Harald though, marrying two women
 
#12
Ida never had any ambition to become queen, while Harald clearly had every reason to stay king. He wanted to change the country and its culture, and we know he succeeded. He may have been an absent father, but we still don’t know that for sure.

Kuma, on the other hand, I just can’t defend from that angle.
People love to joke about Dragon, but the one who should have gone to Mary Geoise to try and save Ginny was Kuma.
What was he hoping for? That Ginny would somehow manage to escape from Mary Geoise on her own after being enslaved? For years he does nothing, even though he has no news about her? If she had managed to escape, she would’ve found a den den mushi and called them, just like she did when she was already on the verge of death.
Ginny was abandoned by everyone. From Dragon, I can understand it. The life of one person shouldn’t risk the entire revolutionary army. Sacrificing one for the greater good is justifiable. But from Kuma? Not nearly as much.

If I were Oda, I would've made it so that Kuma and the others didn't know Ginny had been taken by the Celestial Dragons, and only found out at the end when she contacted them. That would've worked way better.
Yeah that didn’t make sense I get kuma supposed to be some pacifist but he has no trouble fighting against the gorosei themselves to save Bonney,why the hell couldn’t he have done that for Ginny when she was captured
 
#17
Well there's no guarantee that he could have suceeded especially because they didn't know where Ginny was did they?

And Dragon knew about Imu's knights

But Kuma freely took the pain of the elderly and temporsrily saved a country

I don't know what's up with Harald though, marrying two women
Dude they knew where she was taken
 
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