Versus Battle Limitless (JJK) vs Made in Heaven (JJBA)
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Bro, why?
See for yourself
^ The universe reset doesn’t harm any living beings, it just transports them to the new universe formed with all the experiences they had from before ingrained into their being.
Everyone alive at the time of the reset gets sent to the new universe formed. Now if your dead or died at any point before the reset that’s a different story.
That’s the whole point of Made in Heaven, to have everyone experience all of time in the universe before, which will give them a sort of subconscious awareness of their own inevitable fate in the newly reset universe due to having already “experienced” that fate from the time-sped previous universe
That has always been Pucci’s goal: Awareness of one’s unchanging fate bringing peace and happiness for all of humanity (or at least what he believes anyway)
See for yourself
^ The universe reset doesn’t harm any living beings, it just transports them to the new universe formed with all the experiences they had from before ingrained into their being.
Everyone alive at the time of the reset gets sent to the new universe formed. Now if your dead or died at any point before the reset that’s a different story.
That’s the whole point of Made in Heaven, to have everyone experience all of time in the universe before, which will give them a sort of subconscious awareness of their own inevitable fate in the newly reset universe due to having already “experienced” that fate from the time-sped previous universe
That has always been Pucci’s goal: Awareness of one’s unchanging fate bringing peace and happiness for all of humanity (or at least what he believes anyway)
Yeah Made In Heaven utterly destroys Limitless.
Yes, it's true that MIH doesn't age the body or anything while they are alive... that doesn't stop the fact that an unwanked Limitless can still be affected by through many means, especially as Gojo has to note what Limitless can affect or not.
It would not take Pucci but a few tries to figure that out and ends up killing Gojo by killing him with something so fast he can't rule it out with Limitless in time(Especially since JoJo characters would be FTL by default).
Yes, it's true that MIH doesn't age the body or anything while they are alive... that doesn't stop the fact that an unwanked Limitless can still be affected by through many means, especially as Gojo has to note what Limitless can affect or not.
It would not take Pucci but a few tries to figure that out and ends up killing Gojo by killing him with something so fast he can't rule it out with Limitless in time(Especially since JoJo characters would be FTL by default).
...You do realize that he's not actually limited to those things right? Yeah those are his go to but you don't think Pucci will use MiH in ways like JoJo characters use their Stands and have MiH's Universal effects work on Gojo right?
Like having the inertia of a car move at such speeds Gojo would be killed by it or a random as hell brick he instantly frozen, flash fried, etc. depending on the area he's in.
While Humans aren't affected by the Universal Fast Forward, nothing is true about the effects that happens around them or can affect them(Which we see in the anime first hand with a person being instantly frozen walking into a Walk-In Freezer, instantly getting annihilated by a car that just was gonna accelerate and otherwise.
Like having the inertia of a car move at such speeds Gojo would be killed by it or a random as hell brick he instantly frozen, flash fried, etc. depending on the area he's in.
While Humans aren't affected by the Universal Fast Forward, nothing is true about the effects that happens around them or can affect them(Which we see in the anime first hand with a person being instantly frozen walking into a Walk-In Freezer, instantly getting annihilated by a car that just was gonna accelerate and otherwise.
The car I don’t see, it’d be breaking down well and burning up by friction before getting at any sufficient speeds and the freezing is great if Pucci can convince Gojo to walk into a freezer
Unless specified in a Vs Debate, a battlefield is completely neutral grounds and we saw how Pucci fought, besides being clever to get around Jotaro’s timestop as the only threat against him, he otherwise relied purely on speed to kill everyone else
And the tactics he used against Jotaro (running the hell back, forcing him to do things like remove a bunch of knives away from Jolyne to make him use up the duration) won’t apply here
Unless specified in a Vs Debate, a battlefield is completely neutral grounds and we saw how Pucci fought, besides being clever to get around Jotaro’s timestop as the only threat against him, he otherwise relied purely on speed to kill everyone else
And the tactics he used against Jotaro (running the hell back, forcing him to do things like remove a bunch of knives away from Jolyne to make him use up the duration) won’t apply here
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1. Yeah that's only if it gets that fast enough which wouldn't be the case before Pucci resorts to those methods and Pucci can actually move Gojo in there, Limitless means you can't touch him if he recognizes you as such, nothing states at all he cannot be moved period.
2. Neutral Ground? I don't really see how that changes anything to be frank because you have to prove there is absolutely nothing there for Pucci to use other means to kill Gojo(And again, we are going with the fact that Gojo can even be able to calculate faster than Pucci can punch him or use those means either which no).
3. They won't apply here because that's not the situation happening here. The situation happening here is a person who has to fully understand what can be a danger to him so that Limitless can work against it and only can go at Mach 3+ vs. someone who can move well beyond FTL and whose abilities allow for shit like inertia to go at those same speeds the more he keeps MIH up.
There's nothing stopping Pucci from ultimately killing Gojo with someone he has no idea is a threat to him because it's far too fast for him to even see, let alone add it into Limitless.
2. Neutral Ground? I don't really see how that changes anything to be frank because you have to prove there is absolutely nothing there for Pucci to use other means to kill Gojo(And again, we are going with the fact that Gojo can even be able to calculate faster than Pucci can punch him or use those means either which no).
3. They won't apply here because that's not the situation happening here. The situation happening here is a person who has to fully understand what can be a danger to him so that Limitless can work against it and only can go at Mach 3+ vs. someone who can move well beyond FTL and whose abilities allow for shit like inertia to go at those same speeds the more he keeps MIH up.
There's nothing stopping Pucci from ultimately killing Gojo with someone he has no idea is a threat to him because it's far too fast for him to even see, let alone add it into Limitless.
A car would destroy itself or even vaporize well before it’s at any sort of speed to harm Gojo using his own Hollow Purple tanking feat as the limits.
How? Pucci litterally cannot touch Gojo to attempt to move him in any way
Neutral ground in the sense that there isn’t some freezer nearby for Pucci to shove Gojo into (not that he can) unless specified by the OP. The debate for this thread is can Pucci himself get by Infinity with his own attacks and the answer is a flat no.
Scans for suffient speed doing so? Last I recall with his Six Eyes, it factors in mass and some form of direction. So unless Pucci is hitting physics breaking speed which he doesn’t, he isn’t going to hit him that way either
How? Pucci litterally cannot touch Gojo to attempt to move him in any way
Neutral ground in the sense that there isn’t some freezer nearby for Pucci to shove Gojo into (not that he can) unless specified by the OP. The debate for this thread is can Pucci himself get by Infinity with his own attacks and the answer is a flat no.
Scans for suffient speed doing so? Last I recall with his Six Eyes, it factors in mass and some form of direction. So unless Pucci is hitting physics breaking speed which he doesn’t, he isn’t going to hit him that way either
Alright, I'm gonna say this and be out:
Gojo's Limitless was literally explained in the Manga at thorough detail:
You may say that "It proves the point" except it doesn't. Gojo is going by premade instructions for how his Limitless programs things... which won't work for a Priest that is moving at FTL or any objects he throws since the Mass and Speed would be WAY beyond what Gojo would believe would come from those attacks.
Basically, you can literally overwhelm Limitless by just being too fast for Gojo to calculate or for his automatic process to work.
Gojo's Limitless was literally explained in the Manga at thorough detail:
You may say that "It proves the point" except it doesn't. Gojo is going by premade instructions for how his Limitless programs things... which won't work for a Priest that is moving at FTL or any objects he throws since the Mass and Speed would be WAY beyond what Gojo would believe would come from those attacks.
Basically, you can literally overwhelm Limitless by just being too fast for Gojo to calculate or for his automatic process to work.
Yes, that's been the case with Limitless for quite a long time and it's something alot of fanboys refuse to understand:
You actually can physically brute force Limitless through a number of means even without turning it off through hax, spatial hax or whatever.
Even just being faster or stronger than Gojo can calculate(which isn't much) is more than enough to bypass Limitless both automatically and manually. It only looks impossible in JJK because Gojo was stronger than anyone else who could do it and even Megukuna. It probably would have failed most likely against Full Powered Sukuna but that's a given.
You actually can physically brute force Limitless through a number of means even without turning it off through hax, spatial hax or whatever.
Even just being faster or stronger than Gojo can calculate(which isn't much) is more than enough to bypass Limitless both automatically and manually. It only looks impossible in JJK because Gojo was stronger than anyone else who could do it and even Megukuna. It probably would have failed most likely against Full Powered Sukuna but that's a given.