Controversial Lions Are The Most Fraudulent Animal
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I'd say honey badgers are way bigger frauds. People overhype them because of the memes but they can be taken and killed just like any other animal can.
Orcas are lowkey overrated too. They are incredibly clever, efficient and powerful but people act like they're uncontested top dogs which isn't quite true.
Orcas are lowkey overrated too. They are incredibly clever, efficient and powerful but people act like they're uncontested top dogs which isn't quite true.
They are top dogs, but they are also contested in their own right:
- Humpbacks have frequently been known to group up and interfere with orca hunts , with 2 humpbacks aggressively standing off against up to 5 orcas.
It's suggested that humpbacks in general are effectively invulnerable to orca predation as adults; there was a Bremer Bay video where two whole pods of orca failed to take down a juvenile male.
- Sperms are powerful too; the only case involving casualties that I know of is where the orcas had a numerical advantage and the sperm whales were very passive and possibly subadult.
Bear in mind, these were females. Adult bull sperm whales actively live in colder latitudes where killers are more common, have never been taken yet, and on very VERY rare occasions have been known to chase them away.
- Right whales have been known to efficiently defend themselves against orcas. Sironi et al mentioned two cases where they stunned orcas with their tails and even sent one flying
- Pilot whales have been known to chase off orca with greater numbers.
I think the main way orcas are overrated is that people will often say that a pod of 5 or 6 is enough to take down a megalodon in hypotheticals, because they have been known to kill large whales.
I'm no Meg fanboy but IMO this is ridiculous. AFAIK it usually takes 30+ orcas, upto 70 sometimes to take down even juvenile blue and fin whales, which are flight type species that rarely fight back.
A meg is a completely different story being nearly as big and far more well armed. Orcas taking down even great whites is rare, and the killers usually have a HUGE size advantages over their victims.
- Humpbacks have frequently been known to group up and interfere with orca hunts , with 2 humpbacks aggressively standing off against up to 5 orcas.
It's suggested that humpbacks in general are effectively invulnerable to orca predation as adults; there was a Bremer Bay video where two whole pods of orca failed to take down a juvenile male.
- Sperms are powerful too; the only case involving casualties that I know of is where the orcas had a numerical advantage and the sperm whales were very passive and possibly subadult.
Bear in mind, these were females. Adult bull sperm whales actively live in colder latitudes where killers are more common, have never been taken yet, and on very VERY rare occasions have been known to chase them away.
- Right whales have been known to efficiently defend themselves against orcas. Sironi et al mentioned two cases where they stunned orcas with their tails and even sent one flying
- Pilot whales have been known to chase off orca with greater numbers.
I think the main way orcas are overrated is that people will often say that a pod of 5 or 6 is enough to take down a megalodon in hypotheticals, because they have been known to kill large whales.
I'm no Meg fanboy but IMO this is ridiculous. AFAIK it usually takes 30+ orcas, upto 70 sometimes to take down even juvenile blue and fin whales, which are flight type species that rarely fight back.
A meg is a completely different story being nearly as big and far more well armed. Orcas taking down even great whites is rare, and the killers usually have a HUGE size advantages over their victims.
Crocs are my 2nd favorite predators.
Thick, rugged skin with osteoderms. Peak durability.
Strongest animal bite force ever, a guaranteed one-shot.
Peak attack speed, their jaws close before a human can blink.
Pain tolerance and limited regen.
Versatile enough to neg you in land, sea or swamps.
Actually masters of stealth and patience.
Thick, rugged skin with osteoderms. Peak durability.
Strongest animal bite force ever, a guaranteed one-shot.
Peak attack speed, their jaws close before a human can blink.
Pain tolerance and limited regen.
Versatile enough to neg you in land, sea or swamps.
Actually masters of stealth and patience.
Orca are known predators of Sperm Whales
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...h-sperm-whales-orcas-indian-ocean-in-pictures
They display predator behavior to groups of Bulls and only back off when it seems they can’t get an inch. That’s not behavior of an animal afraid of Sperm Bulls but very similar to lions with wildebeest if they can’t get a vulnerable member out of a herd.
Predation fails more often than not as a rule in nature, so I’m not surprised by these examples but Orca are known to hunt humpback whales and go for their calves.
I don’t really care about comparing a well documented animal like orca to Megalodon, especially with the recent changes and reported tonnage increase with its elongated body. Too many unknowns for an animal of that size
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...h-sperm-whales-orcas-indian-ocean-in-pictures
They display predator behavior to groups of Bulls and only back off when it seems they can’t get an inch. That’s not behavior of an animal afraid of Sperm Bulls but very similar to lions with wildebeest if they can’t get a vulnerable member out of a herd.
Predation fails more often than not as a rule in nature, so I’m not surprised by these examples but Orca are known to hunt humpback whales and go for their calves.
I don’t really care about comparing a well documented animal like orca to Megalodon, especially with the recent changes and reported tonnage increase with its elongated body. Too many unknowns for an animal of that size