Versus Battle Marines and Warlords vs the Monster Association

#21
Passive Loga intangibility has nothing to do with strength. It’d be dumb to give a Logia the W just because their opponent technically can’t hit them due to not having Haki. No one would say Caribou > Goku because Goku can’t hit a Logia’s real body
But Goku can and he wins:milaugh: This is literally why logias exists- to win via intangibility(re read Aokiji vs SH or Kizaru on Sabaody).
 
#22
This makes the logias weaker than they are in the One Piece verse since logia intangibility gives them an advantage even against haki use.

Admirals usually fare better in cross vs due to this, and also their raw AOE. I see Kuzan being able to counter Evil Natural Water who is one of the hardest to deal with monsters normally.

There's no way team One Piece can win this though with how many high dragons are here.
Admirals can still phase shift in advance to dodge attacks. They just can’t let their passive intangibility save them from speed blitzes
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#25
Admirals can still phase shift in advance to dodge attacks. They just can’t let their passive intangibility save them from speed blitzes
Passive intangibility is still an advantage, for example in a fight against Big Mom they would be able to ignore all the attacks via the homies, so in a clusterfuck group battle like this the logias never have to worry about long range elemental attacks or environment based attacks (wind, even psychosis) affecting them. Massive advantage they wouldn't have otherwise. Physical speed blitz should damage them though obviously.
 
#27
Passive intangibility is still an advantage, for example in a fight against Big Mom they would be able to ignore all the attacks via the homies, so in a clusterfuck group battle like this the logias never have to worry about long range elemental attacks or environment based attacks (wind, even psychosis) affecting them. Massive advantage they wouldn't have otherwise. Physical speed blitz should damage them though obviously.
We can do magic system equalization then. The monsters can imbue their attacks in Haki (without impacting their AP) like a OP character can
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#35
Monster King Orochi
Psykos (can fuse with Orochi to become Psyrochi)
Black Sperm (can become Golden/Platinum Sperm)
Oh dear lord, this alone would be too much.

Orochi shook planet earth just by charging his Gaia Cannon. And Psykorochi is literally Orochi + Psykorochi. Yeah I would say the top MA monsters are enough to win. You. An debate Admirals vs other dragons or whatever but these would likely be too much for them.

If it’s V1 Phoenix Man, dear Lord. V1 Phoenix Man was relative to Orochi in his final form lol.
 
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