Versus Battle MHA vs One Piece in terms of character quality

[Monkey D Theories]

Which series has the better characters?

I just feel like MHA has the better characters. Like take Deku vs Luffy.

Deku is a chosen one, just like Luffy. But he isn't perfect, he has flaws and struggles to fill all might's shoes. Unlike Luffy, who is just Roger/Joyboy 2.0.
Similarly in terms of power ups, the multiple quirks within OFA were revealed in a training arc and logically expanded on through the rest of the series. Whereas advanced haki, the nika fruit, and awakening were all shoehorned into the span of 2 arcs.

I don't think OP characters are nearly as intriguing as MHA characters. I feel like OP is far less character driven as a story. Its just Luffy going from level to level, arc to arc.
Just look at characters like Endeavor, shigaraki, Shoto, Dabi, most OP characters don't have even half the development of the aforementioned 4.

I also think Bakugo is better written than zoro. He doesn't just show up and 1 shot his opponents with a giant explosion, there's more to his character than that. Maybe pre-skip, you could argue otherwise, but post skip zoro and all the SHs have just become stale.

 

[Water1415]

Which series has the better characters?

I just feel like MHA has the better characters. Like take Deku vs Luffy.

Deku is a chosen one, just like Luffy. But he isn't perfect, he has flaws and struggles to fill all might's shoes. Unlike Luffy, who is just Roger/Joyboy 2.0.
Similarly in terms of power ups, the multiple quirks within OFA were revealed in a training arc and logically expanded on through the rest of the series. Whereas advanced haki, the nika fruit, and awakening were all shoehorned into the span of 2 arcs.

I don't think OP characters are nearly as intriguing as MHA characters. I feel like OP is far less character driven as a story. Its just Luffy going from level to level, arc to arc.
Just look at characters like Endeavor, shigaraki, Shoto, Dabi, most OP characters don't have even half the development of the aforementioned 4.

I also think Bakugo is better written than zoro. He doesn't just show up and 1 shot his opponents with a giant explosion, there's more to his character than that. Maybe pre-skip, you could argue otherwise, but post skip zoro and all the SHs have just become stale.

Luffy isn't that interesting to me, but Deku style mcs annoy the hell out of me, I'd rather prefer a character like Luffy, at least Luffy beats his opponents up without trying to talk no jutsu them

 

[BangOO🍅]

Just look at characters like Endeavor, shigaraki, Shoto, Dabi, most OP characters don't have even half the development of the aforementioned 4.

I also think Bakugo is better written than zoro.

Agree.

I like how Horikoshi put more character development to Todoroki family and like you mention, and Bakugo having character development defo making him better than Zoro.

but Deku is ass compared to Luffy, he is just cant stop crying lol

 

[RayanOO]

Endeavor > whole Straw Hat crew

But outside that :Luffy > Deku

 

[Monster Luffy]

Unlike Luffy, who is just Roger/Joyboy 2.0.

Blatant lie or lacking comprehension.

 

[Blazing Lion]

The biggest point for me is that OP characters like the SHPs are not exactly hero material, Luffy and Zoro outright state that they don't want to be heroes. Everyone has their flaw (which is also a gag sometimes) but they are more likeable for me that way. I am strictly not a fan of characters like Deku, I like Goku and Luffy type of MCs more. What some people call 'character development' or flaws and struggles I see as whiny characters. It may seem toxic masculinity but I prefer MCs who are a lot less emotional (they get emotional sometimes and that is okay, it is actually better) but too much of that and they start seeming weak. We have seens in OP where Luffy, Zoro and Sanji have cried and when they cry it hits different because they are so stoic (idk what word I am searching for here) most of the time.

People bash OP here so much of the time but we are just unable to drop it even with the latest reveals we still like the manga and how Luffy being the chosen one has been handled until now. I still believe that Luffy will accomplish his destiny (what he said to Sabo and Ace) in his own way and for his own reasons even if he finds out that he is the chosen one etc., because that is who he has been all this time, he helps people for his own you can say selfish reasons. To some it may not seem realistic but as a reader it is much more enjoyable. It is not necessary for a character to keep having some internal conflict throughout the manga, there are battles within and battles outside which the hero must win. I mean Luffy has one of the best emotional instincts that we have seen which people might not expect from a dumb MC but he understands people and things and how he helps them in a much better way. For example how he destroyed Nami's room in Arlong Park, or how he told Robin to say that she wants to die when she is on their side. He is true to his dream and nature of looking for adventures and becoming the Pirate king, if Usopp wants to leave then that is his choice but the journey goes on. I think sometimes people forget that these are shonen manga and they don't need to be so very deep, emotional, dramatic and since OP has been running for so long most of the early readers are now in their 20s and 30s.

How you define character quality is imho very dependent on the story and how much that type of character fits with that story. I mean a character like Deku would feel very out of place in OP as Luffy. We have characters that might seem similar from different mangas but they are not the same characters and it may or may not work out if we swapped those characters. I mean imagine Naruto in OP, he would spend more time trying to chase people Usopp, Robin then he would in adventuring and finding OP. It's true that Luffy also chased after Sanji but the situations and reasons were completely different and it was a whole lot shorter than Naruto chasing after Sasuke. Don't think that I hate Naruto or MHA, I loved them and I still like them but how they handled the latter stages of the story seemed underwhelming to me.

For me character quality is how much a reader first and foremost enjoys that said character and relates to or is a fan of that character. Each character has a role in a story and it depends on the writer how much shine that character gets in the story.

I hate how Deku and his powerups and being the chosen one was handled in MHA, before he actually had a rivalry with Shoto and Bakugo but now he has reached that level which Sasuke and Naruto did even earlier.

 

[Roo]

MHA villains <<<<

MHA side characters <<<<

MHA MC <<<<

Literally the only characters I could put above One Piece standards are the Todorokis

 

[Seatonnes]

Worst written character in one piece > best written character in mha

 

[PrinceKun]

Which series has the better characters?

I just feel like MHA has the better characters. Like take Deku vs Luffy.

Deku is a chosen one, just like Luffy. But he isn't perfect, he has flaws and struggles to fill all might's shoes. Unlike Luffy, who is just Roger/Joyboy 2.0.
Similarly in terms of power ups, the multiple quirks within OFA were revealed in a training arc and logically expanded on through the rest of the series. Whereas advanced haki, the nika fruit, and awakening were all shoehorned into the span of 2 arcs.

I don't think OP characters are nearly as intriguing as MHA characters. I feel like OP is far less character driven as a story. Its just Luffy going from level to level, arc to arc.
Just look at characters like Endeavor, shigaraki, Shoto, Dabi, most OP characters don't have even half the development of the aforementioned 4.

I also think Bakugo is better written than zoro. He doesn't just show up and 1 shot his opponents with a giant explosion, there's more to his character than that. Maybe pre-skip, you could argue otherwise, but post skip zoro and all the SHs have just become stale.

Because One Piece cast is way to large,and as we have seen last chapter Oda keep focusing on characters like Raizo

 

[RayanOO]

MHA villains <<<<

MHA side characters <<<<

MHA MC <<<<

Literally the only characters I could put above One Piece standards are the Todorokis

MHA could have been so good, so much potential, such a waste

 

[Roo]

MHA could have been so good, so much potential, such a waste

Well at least Hori doesn’t seem to be as strict as Oda is with his lore. We might get a really good spin off in the future(vigilantes is good but still not OP lol)

 

[RayanOO]

Well at least Hori doesn’t seem to be as strict as Oda is with his lore. We might get a really good spin off in the future(vigilantes is good but still not OP lol)

If I remember correctly Hori wanted to finish MHA quickly to work on something else
So I don’t bet on many spin off

 

[Roo]

If I remember correctly Hori wanted to finish MHA quickly to work on something else
So I don’t bet on many spin off

I don’t expect Hori to, but maybe an editor or a fan of MHA

 

[Finalbeta]

Most MHA characters are way more deep both in power variety and backbone story, so at least depth wise MHA easily

That doesn't mean the OP characters are boring but I would pick MHA overall

 

[Deleted member 10278]

As bad as Luffy has become over the years I’d still take him over the pile of garbage that is Deku. The MHA author really missed out on the opportunity to make Deku one of the better Shonen MCs by having him embrace the fact that he can’t get a quirk and find another way instead of just handing him the most OP quirk anyway. That was an instant turn off. When it comes to the others, I don’t know enough to say individually but Bakugo was pretty annoying personally. Man had this weird grudge with Deku rom the jump, would’ve probably liked his interactions with Deku more if Deku took on a non-quirk route combat wise but the one for all makes their interactions downright unbearable.

Amongst the pile of meh characters, Todoroki was the only one who stood out from where I stopped. The villians arguably carry the series, that’s how poor the main cast is.

 

[DarkWitch]

The MHA author really missed out on the opportunity to make Deku one of the better Shonen MCs by having him embrace the fact that he can’t get a quirk and find another way instead of just handing him the most OP quirk anyway.

Seeing how op the main villain is, at this point it makes sense for Deku to have a op quirk or else he would have no chance.

The problem isn't just Deku have a op quirk, it's also the main villain being op as well.

 

[Finalbeta]

I wish many OP character featured about as depth

 

[Deleted member 10278]

Seeing how op the main villain is, at this point it makes sense for Deku to have a op quirk or else he would have no chance.

The problem isn't just Deku have a op quirk, it's also the main villain being op as well.

See that’s what separates creative and unique series from the typical and average Shonen series like MHA. Would have been far more interesting if both Deku and the main villian were closer to the rest of the cast, if it hasn’t happened already Deku is bound to leave his already mostly sub par classmates and fellow side characters in the dust.

 

[AlcheAsh]

This is an interesting topic for sure.
The "Deku vs Luffy" argument is hard for me because I love both characters but I personally prefer Luffy, Deku definitely isn't bad though.

As for the villains, One Piece has Doflamingo (My favorite Shonen villain) but I think MHA is more consistent with the writing quality of it's villains. I mean Shiggy, Dabi, Toga, Twice, Overhaul, hell even Gentle and Spinner. So I'd give villains to MHA. Again OP doesn't have horribly written villains or anything though.

Now in terms of side characters, there is multiple discussions to be had.
First off, the Todoroki family is just on a different level compared to most SC's One Piece has to offer. Endeavor is easily above most the OP cast imo. Shoto I would place pretty high too, although I prefer characters like Sanji.

Between Class 1-A and the SH's I would say I prefer the SH's overall. I mean sure 1-A has Bakugo, Iida, and Ochako but the SH's have Zoro, Sanji, and Robin. This one is definitely something I could see going either way for some people though.

MHA usually gives it's characters more depth, and that's not to say OP doesn't do that because it definitely does.

At the end of the day it's a matter of preference.

 

[O-Nami]

Unlike Luffy, who is just Roger/Joyboy 2.0.

Man hahahaha I can't stop laughing xDDD

All this is only favoritism to MHA.

OP Main cast stomps the Class 1-A, there's no chance for the hero class in terms of character quality. Only Nami's flashback is better than any thing in MHA.

One Piece characters are amazing. The problem is that a lot of people usually don't like to see the subtle details. For example, all the Nine Red Scabbards. Denjir even his first appearance was laughing about Orochi's fear, the dialogues of this character are wonderful because he threatens him even without Orochi himself realizing it, secretly mocking him with that smile.

"If foxfire kin'emon and the red scabbards should appear... I, for one, would welcome it!! I would enjoy the chance to show you my skill with the blade."

This samurais are full of amazing details like this, where we can see them enjoy and suffer. I only can say that OP's character are building more in a world building way than something "only personal" and that makes them deep. They can have a huge influence in the story, even when they aren't stronger than other characters like Luffy or Roger.